I object. The rule says that The Ritual SHALL be performed; it doesn't specify who shall do the performing. In the absence of such a specification, holding any individual player responsible is clearly unreasonable, since their individual responsibility to perform The Ritual was never explicitly stated.
-Aris On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 12:59 PM D Margaux <dmargaux...@gmail.com> wrote: > Below is a proto-decision on the fingers pointed by Falsifian regarding > the Ritual; comments welcome. > > * * * > > The key question seems to be whether a fine for failure to perform the > Ritual CAN be imposed on players consistently with Rule 2531. Under Rule > 2531, among other things, a fine is INEFFECTIVE if > > > (2) it attempts to levy a fine on a person for an action or inaction > which e (more likely than not) did not commit; [or] > > > > (3) it attempts to levy a fine for an action or inaction which is not > prohibited by the rules . . . . > > In this case, I think a fine MUST be imposed because those requirements > (and the other requirements) are satisfied by the players’ failure to > perform the Ritual. > > Under Rule 2596 (the Ritual), “[a]ny player CAN perform the Ritual by > paying a fee of 7 coins,” and “[t]he Ritual MUST be performed at least once > in every Agoran week.” Under Rule 2152 (Mother, May I?), “MUST” means that > “[f]ailing to perform the described action violates the rule in question.” > > Last week, the “described action” (the Ritual) was not “performed.” That > violation came to pass because each player declined to perform the Ritual > last week. In my view, because “failing to perform the [Ritual]” at least > once last week “violates the rule in question,” that means that any player > or entity capable of performing the Ritual violated the Rule through eir > “inaction” when it turned out that the Ritual was not performed on time. > Falsifian pointed eir finger at players each of whom could have performed > the Ritual. As a result, each such player violated the Rule. > > Ais523 suggests that the Ritual itself may have violated the Rule. I > think I disagree. In my view, the Ritual is the action required to be > performed; it is not an entity that violates the Rule when it is not > performed. Imagine the Rule instead said, “any player CAN hop on one foot” > and “a hopping upon one foot MUST be performed at least once in every > Agoran week.” We wouldn’t say that the rule is violated by the “hopping > upon one foot,” because that’s an action not an entity. Same with the > Ritual. > > > > > >> On Mon, 2019-06-03 at 02:38 +0000, James Cook wrote: > >> I Point my Finger at every player, in the following order: > >> > >> omd, Aris, Gaelan, G., Cuddle Beam, Trigon, Murphy, ATMunn, twg, > >> D. Margaux, Jacob Arduino, Falsifian, Bernie, Rance, o, Jason Cobb, > >> Walker, PSS, Corona, V.J. Rada, L, Hālian, Tarhalindur, Telnaior, > >> Baron von Vaderham > >> > >> for failing to perform The Ritual in the previous Agoran week. > >> > >> Explanation for how each player P violated the rules: > >> * Rule 2596 required The Ritual to be performed. > >> * P had a method available to perform The Ritual. Therefore P is > >> responsible if The Ritual was not performed. > >> > >> (I had honestly intended to perform it at the last minute once again > >> this week, but forgot. I intended to do this because I try to follow > >> the rules. Though, honestly, I'm happy that we finally missed a week > >> so that we get to see what happens.) > > >
