Oh dear, I'm sorry. I did think your setup looked similar to mine but I
couldn't see why, if you were planning the same thing but your end goal didn't
rely on a dependent action, you wouldn't just activate it immediately. I guess
if you were hoping to succeed via timing then that explains that.
-twg
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On Saturday, February 9, 2019 1:43 PM, D. Margaux <dmargaux...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Crud. This is the same loophole I discovered. Looks like twg thought of it
> first. I believe it works as described by twg.
>
> I withdraw my Duumvirate proposal, since it’s not a novel bug. :-/
>
> I had planned to use the act-on-behalf mechanic to force everyone to vote FOR
> it immediately before voting period is over, so it wouldn’t be destructive.
> Hadn’t occurred to me to use a festival, which is a clever idea.
>
> > On Feb 9, 2019, at 8:30 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey m...@timon.red wrote:
> > I modify the contract formed on Monday to which G. and I are parties by
> > changing its text to read as follows:
> > {
> > This is a contract. Any person can become a party to this contract. twg and
> > G. CAN, by announcement, cease to be parties to this contract; other
> > parties CANNOT cease to be parties.
> > twg CAN modify this contract by announcement, with the exception that twg
> > CANNOT (and SHALL NOT attempt to) modify this contract such that it imposes
> > any obligation on G. or otherwise significantly harms eir standing in the
> > game, or such that this paragraph is removed, altered or otherwise rendered
> > ineffective.
> > Herrings are a currency defined by this contract. Ownership of herrings is
> > restricted to any entity. twg CAN, by announcement, create a herring in the
> > possession of any entity.
> > Each herring has a colour, which is red. The colour of a herring is set
> > when it is created and cannot thereafter be changed. An attempt to create a
> > herring is INEFFECTIVE if the colour of the herring is not specified.
> > twg is allowed to act on behalf of any other party to this contract, except
> > G.
> > }
> > I then, as permitted by Rule 1742/20, modify the contract by changing the
> > set of parties to it to the set of all players.
> > If I were malevolently inclined, I would now submit the following proposal,
> > make Aris distribute it, initiate a Rank 8 Festival with support from Aris,
> > D. Margaux, Murphy and nichdel, get each of their ballots cast FOR it, and
> > then make them deregister (preventing them from withdrawing their ballots).
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > Title: Seems Derivative
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: twg
> > Co-authors:
> > Re-enact Rule 2469, "Dictatorship", with Power 3.0 and the following
> > text:
> > A Decree is a document clearly labeled as such. The Dictator CAN,
> > With Notice, proclaim a Decree. When a Decree is proclaimed, then:
> >
> > 1. its power is set to 3,
> > 2. it takes effect by applying, to the greatest extent permitted
> > by the rules, the changes specified in its text to the game
> > state, and then,
> >
> > 3. its power is set to 0.
> >
> > Re-enact Rule 2470, "The Dictator", with Power 3.0 and the following
> > text:
> > twg is the Dictator.
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > (For clarity, the above proposal is published only for illustration; I DO
> > NOT submit it at this time.)
> > There are probably other ways to get the proposal passed given the ability
> > to act on anyone's behalf, but this was the least destructive foolproof way
> > that I could think of. (I considered a Ratification Without Objection, but
> > (a) it's possible there is some blanket effect somewhere that prevents
> > rules being modified by ratification - I wouldn't have wanted to risk it,
> > and (b) G. would still have been able to object to it.)
> > Instead...
> > I act on behalf of Telnaior to retract eir objection to my intent to
> > Declare Apathy;
> > and I Declare Apathy, specifying the following set of players: {twg}.
> > I publish the following thesis:
> > blep.
> > --- end of thesis ---
> > I act on behalf of Telnaior to retract eir objection to my intent to award
> > myself the degree Associate of Nomic.
> > I act on behalf of ATMunn to support my intent to award myself the degree
> > Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of Aris to support my intent to award myself the degree
> > Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of Baron Von Vaderham to support my intent to award myself
> > the degree Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of CuddleBeam to support my intent to award myself the
> > degree Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of D. Margaux to support my intent to award myself the
> > degree Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of Gaelan to support my intent to award myself the degree
> > Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of Jacob Arduino to support my intent to award myself the
> > degree Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of Murphy to support my intent to award myself the degree
> > Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of omd to support my intent to award myself the degree
> > Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of Telnaior to support my intent to award myself the degree
> > Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of Trigon to support my intent to award myself the degree
> > Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of V.J. Rada to support my intent to award myself the
> > degree Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of Corona to support my intent to award myself the degree
> > Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of Hālian to support my intent to award myself the degree
> > Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of L. to support my intent to award myself the degree
> > Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of nichdel to support my intent to award myself the degree
> > Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of Publius Scribonius Scholasticus to support my intent to
> > award myself the degree Associate of Nomic;
> > I act on behalf of Tarhalindur to support my intent to award myself the
> > degree Associate of Nomic, and do so.
> > Thank you, everybody, for your unanimous approval of my thesis. I couldn't
> > have done it without you. I shall repay you by not stealing all your money.
> > I submit the following proposal.
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > Title: Holey Loops, Batman!
> > Adoption index: 3.0
> > Author: twg
> > Co-authors:
> > Amend Rule 1742, "Contracts", by inserting, between the fifth and
> > sixth sentences of the first paragraph, the sentence "It is IMPOSSIBLE
> > for a person to become a party to a contract without eir agreement."
> > Amend Rule 2124, "Agoran Satisfaction", by changing each occurrence of
> > "eligible entity" to "eligible entity, acting as emself,".
> > Amend Rule 869, "How to Join and Leave Agora", by changing "A player
> > CAN deregister" to "A player, acting as emself, CAN deregister".
> > Amend Rule 2480, "Festivals", by changing the second paragraph to:
> > If Agora's Festivity has had the same nonzero value for 14 days or
> > more, or if it has a nonzero value and fewer than 5 players are
> > Festive, then any player CAN flip it to 0 by announcement.
> > Amend Rule 683, "Voting on Agoran Decisions", by changing "a player
> > CAN by announcement withdraw (syn. retract) a ballot that e submitted"
> > to "an entity CAN by announcement withdraw (syn. retract) a ballot
> > that e submitted".
> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> > I award myself an Indigo Ribbon.
> > I CFJ: "I own an Indigo Ribbon."
