DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] Court Gazette

[Madeline]

Alright, so, the idea of it was that the sentence made two claims. Claim 
1 was (hopefully obviously by now) false. The question I got stuck on 
was whether or not Claim 2 was predicated on Claim 1 - in other words, 
would Claim 2 be invalidated simply by Claim 1 also being invalidated? 
The sentence structure suggested it as very plausible, and in a more 
serious matter having the conditions of "when you can do this thing" 
being rendered invalid might have huge consequences, so there's a pretty 
strong case for potentially invalidating. On the other hand, Claim 2 
isn't actually impacted by Claim 1's invalidation at all, and in this 
case Claim 1 existing wasn't a big deal anyway, so there's a reason not 
to. I couldn't really see an easy way to decide one way over the other 
(though with what I've just written I feel like I'd be leaning towards 
invalidating Claim 2 on this logic regardless), so in the end I 
basically decided "you know this only really matters for the sake of the 
election and the election is a total mess because of people not knowing, 
so let's take the former position and suggest that maybe trying to take 
precedent from this one isn't the greatest of ideas."

Hopefully that explains things a little bit?

On 2017-11-20 07:29, Kerim Aydin wrote:

I support, with the following arguments:

One reason the judge gives for judging as e does is that the case has
been rendered moot by a rule change.  This is not always a bad choice,
but forgets that it's not moot for the Herald-initiated Agoran decision
that may or may not be ongoing.


On Mon, 20 Nov 2017, VJ Rada wrote:
I don't understand 3594 either. Idu intend to call a motion for
reconsideration with two support on the grounds that 1: the judgement
seemed to consider best interests of the game using facts after the calling
of the CFJ, rather than the best interests of the game with each blanket
interpretation of the rules and 2: the judgement appeared to invalidate a
rules clause for the best interests of the game, which is obviously not
possible.

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 7:18 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:


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COURT GAZETTE [Arbitor's Weekly Report for 19 Nov 2017]

*  PUBLIC REMINDER to PSS, G., and Aris
    You have judgements that are late or nearly late!  See below.

*  I've dropped Nichdel from the list of judges as e hasn't been around.
    Can re-add at request!

Open Cases (CFJs)
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[* = overdue, ! = <24 hours before deadline]

3591* Motioned to Publius  (due Sat, 18 Nov 2017 ~03:14:10)
3595! Assigned to G.       (due Sun, 19 Nov 2017 ~22:14:02)
3596! Assigned to G.       (due Sun, 19 Nov 2017 ~22:16:00)
3597! Assigned to Aris     (due Sun, 19 Nov 2017 ~22:19:51)

3598  Assigned to ATMunn   (due Sun, 26 Nov 2017 ~19:56:44)
3599  Assigned to o        (due Sun, 26 Nov 2017 ~20:01:43)
3600  Assigned to o        (due Sun, 26 Nov 2017 ~20:01:43)
3601  Assigned to o        (due Sun, 26 Nov 2017 ~20:01:43)
3602  Assigned to Telnaior (due Sun, 26 Nov 2017 ~20:03:30)
3603  Assigned to Alexis   (due Sun, 26 Nov 2017 ~20:07:06)
3604  Assigned to Alexis   (due Sun, 26 Nov 2017 ~20:09:22)


Recently-Delivered Verdicts and Implications
--------------------------------------------
[** = consider for rules annotation, ! = delivered late]

**3592 by o:  If a purported report is missing required information, it
is not a report.

3593 by ATMunn:  a collection of puns without a final punchline can be
"a truly hideous pun" as per R1650.

3594 bt Telnaior:  confusion in Medal of Honour definition ("month" and
"7 days") somehow made the rule not work (a bit confused on the logic of
the judge's arguments myself).


Bench Roster

Judge      Court[***]   Recent
-----      -----        ------
G.         Night        3556, 3567, 3563, 3579, 3580, 3582, 3595, 3596
Publius    Night        3558, 3561, 3574, 3576, 3591
Corona     Night
o          Day          3568, 3565, 3572, 3584, 3590, 3592, 3599-3601
Aris       Day          3557, 3562, 3577, 3578, 3589, 3597
V.J. Rada  Day          3585
Telnaior   Day          3586, 3594, 3602
Alexis     Weekend      3573, 3581, 3587, 3588, 3603, 3604
ATMunn     Weekend      3593, 3598


Highest Numbered Case:   3604
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[***] Court Descriptions

Day Court   [Default, rotate roster through as needed].

Night Court [Assigned quick turnaround cases (either trivial or
              game-urgent), generally promises to judge in 4 days].

Weekend Court [Backup/partial rotation, generally gets half as many
                cases each as Day Court].

Courts are informal relative levels of "interest" in judging as per
R991.  Players can change Court by notifying the Arbitor.
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DISCLAIMER
       Informational only - No actions are contained in this report.
       Information in this report is NOT self-ratifying.

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 From V.J. Rada