I'm all up for amendments to the reward after handing in a provisional
ones, if needed. Like, it's not a win or a scam or anything, it's an honest
contribution without much of a reward except a superfluous title and good
vibes.

>   Levels were:  AN 150, BN 250, Masters 750, Doctorate 1000

lol, our CFJs routinely go above those, we are smurt af.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Thanks!  I'm thinking of formalizing the results of this discussion into
> a rule to provide better guidance - so your general thoughts very welcome.
>
> Here's a brief history of our standards from 2002 when I joined:
>
> - When I joined, there was a word count standard that included a
>    progression in the form of credit for higher degrees:  e.g.
>        The Degree of Associate of Nomic requires a Thesis of at least
>        150 words.  A Candidate who already holds an AN Degree receives
>        a credit of 100 words towards the Thesis requirement for any
>        higher Degree, unless the Candidate also holds a BN Degree.
>    Levels were:  AN 150, BN 250, Masters 750, Doctorate 1000
>    These are *really low* limits, and most theses blew these limits out
>    of the water regardless of level.
>
> - Then, we went to a system where we appointed an official Thesis
>    Advisor who would recommend a level and review very critically,
>    the reviews were based on content (e.g. a 1000 word limited-scope
>    CFJ would be "lower" than a 1000 word deep philosophical essay).
>
> - Then a vote where the voters had the Option of choosing any degree.
>
> - Now the Herald has to pick which level to award before asking for
>    2 Agoran Consent - that makes it harder for voters to pick between
>    levels.
>
>
> On Thu, 26 Oct 2017, Alexis Hunt wrote:
> > No issues. It would be remiss of me to participate overly much in the
> discussions
> > of the academy in regards to my own thesis.
> >
> > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 at 12:56 Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >       Hi folks,
> >
> >       I'm still struggling a bit "leveling" Alexis's thesis.  By sheer
> length,
> >       it is clearly more than a B.N. and would fit for Masters.  However
> >       (wearing my academic review hat, seriously I just got out of a
> review
> >       committee for a RL master's thesis), it's subject matter of the
> CFJ is
> >       limited in scope - while very-well analyzed, as written it has
> limited
> >       applicability or generalization outside of carefully analyzing a
> set of
> >       rules that have now been fixed.
> >
> >       I'm going to give 24 more hours for discussion - there's currently
> no
> >       standards for theses in the rules.
> >
> >       Just by word count, Masters.
> >       by content: B.N., but e has that already, so A.N.
> >       (ais523's suggestion of changing the rules to allow multiple
> degrees
> >       at each level is a good one, but I don't want to delay the award
> >       further).
> >
> >       Also:  should we consider "academic progression" at all, e.g. "this
> >       would be a masters if you'd filled in the lower degrees first, but
> >       since you haven't, fill in the lower?"
> >
> >       My apologies, Alexis, if I'm over-thinking this. I'm totally happy
> >       to error upwards in most things and give the higher award, but I'm
> having
> >       a hard time getting over the "jump" in RL between undergrad and
> graduate
> >       degree expectations in terms of the research topic being more
> general than
> >       a specific CFJ.   Since this is one of the rare Masters
> candidates, the
> >       decision sets something of a precedent...
> >
> >       -G.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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