On 09/25/2017 11:55 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
I will issue everyone who does this a trust token (all at once, with my charity report) and will try to think of a more substantial token of gratitude. Thank you.

-Aris

On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 9:53 PM VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com <mailto:vijar...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    I have like 62 I think? I give Agora 20 shinies.

    On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Aris Merchant
    <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com
    <mailto:thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
    > On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Kerim Aydin
    <ke...@u.washington.edu <mailto:ke...@u.washington.edu>> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote:
    >>> * The reward for authoring or pending a successful proposal
    pended with shinies is 1 sh.
    >>
    >> Ok, so as much as I understand the assessor's lateness, I
    suspect it cost me
    >> personally a fair purse of shinies.  I'm at the point where I'm
    ready to call the
    >> entire wildly-adjusting and oscillating"system" frustrating
    guesswork and
    >> gambling to tune out of it entirely, voting to just keep AP and
    be happy with
    >> a couple actions a week.
    >
    > Economic reform goals:
    >
    > 1. Keep everything stable. I'd say we also need to keep things
    > interesting, but frankly everyone could use a bit of boringness
    right
    > now. This is impacting the workloads of several officers (meaning we
    > have to do our work in bursts) and is ruining stability and
    financial
    > planing. IMHO, this is is also the biggest flaw in at least two
    > proposals, Shiny Weather and Hot Potato, which would both actually
    > reduce stability in the markets.
    >
    > 2. Keep Agora solvent. Another major flaw in most financial
    proposals.
    > At least half of any wealth from taxes should go to Agora. Yes,
    that's
    > right, half. I know this is going to be unpopular, but wealth
    > redistribution will not actually create a good financial system
    unless
    > rule based rewards work. This is the upside of "print money" style
    > proposals, which people vote against primarily because they're
    > applying too much real world economics (not that people need to vote
    > for them, see the next sentence, but I think they vote against
    for the
    > wrong reasons). The disadvantage of that kind of proposal is that
    > they're short term fixes that don't solve the underlying
    problem. I'm
    > starting to think that a two tier tax might be best. A wealth
    > redistribution tax would be placed on the rich, while a public tax
    > would be levied on all but the poor.
    >
    > 3. Redistribute wealth. Yeah, this is third. No, that isn't a
    mistake.
    > Every self-respecting economic reform proposal does this, but it's
    > actually rather pointless without the other two. Until those happen,
    > shines aren't a stable form of value.
    >
    > Temporary fix (mandatory charity): I have 48 shinies. I pay Agora 16
    > shines. All players, but especially o and P.S.S SHOULD give
    Agora 1/3
    > of their shinies, receiving nothing in exchange. I pledge to
    publish a
    > list of who has and has not done so. I also pledge that if I
    judge the
    > response of the community to be insufficient, I will submit and
    pend a
    > proposal levying a tax upon all players.
    >
    > -Aris



    --
    From V.J. Rada

As the player with the lowest sh count, I'm abstaining from this if it's alright.

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