> On Sep 14, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> An endorsement is a type of conditional.  Does formalizing the "endorse" mean
> other types of conditionals are forbidden?  are they allowed outside the list
> but not inside?
> 
> For example, would "I vote for {Incumbent if e does X, Someone else if e does 
> Y,
> Third person}"  (assuming X and Y are pretty easy to determine) be allowed?
> 
> If not, could you get the same effect by conditionals outside the list, e.g.
> "If incumbent does X, I vote {Incumbent, Y}, otherwise I vote {Y, incumbent}.”

I think IRV is easier to resolve, by a considerable margin, if conditionals 
only apply to the whole ballot. Reasonable conditions can generally be hoisted 
out of the list the way you describe, so I don’t think barring conditionals 
within the list does any damage to expressiveness, but it might be that 
combinatorial explosions for even medium-sized ballots make hoisting 
impractical.

More generally, I think IRV ballots should be able to use the same conditions 
any other ballot can. If that means dropping ENDORSE from the list, so be it, 
but I did specifically want to resolve the question of whether {a, ENDORSE n, 
b} is a valid ballot.

-o

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