On 07/24/2017 04:00 PM, grok (caleb vines) wrote:
I would appreciate gratuitous arguments on this CFJ in the coming day
or two, especially from PSS regarding eir denial of the initial CoE.
-grok
On Jul 24, 2017 3:54 PM, "Alex Smith" <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
<mailto:ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk>> wrote:
On Sun, 2017-07-23 at 15:21 -0500, Nic Evans wrote:
> On 07/23/2017 03:08 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> > Denied, nothing caused it to cease to exist.
>
> I submit the following CFJ: C♥️U is an agency.
This is CFJ 3544. I assign it to grok.
> Arguments:
>
> Agencies are defined as follows in R2467:
>
> "An Agency is a document empowering persons to act on behalf
> <http://agoranomic.org/ruleset/#Rule2466
<http://agoranomic.org/ruleset/#Rule2466>> of another player."
>
> C♥️U was created by CuddleBeam. CuddleBeam is not a player. C♥️U
> does
> not empower any persons to act on behalf of a player. Regardless of
> whether it exists, it is no longer an agency.
>
> > ----
> > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
<mailto:p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 23, 2017, at 3:23 PM, Nic Evans <nich...@gmail.com
<mailto:nich...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 07/23/2017 01:33 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote:
> > > > Superintendent's Weekly Report
> > > >
> > > > Short List of agencies:
> > > >
> > > > ASC - Head: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > > > BÖÖ - Head: Quazie
> > > > C♥️N - Head: CuddleBeam
> > > > C♥️U - Head: CuddleBeam
> > > > GII - Head: Gaelan
> > > > GOD - Head: Quazie
> > > > MKD - Head: Gaelan
> > > > PRN - Head: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > > > SSP - Head: Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > > > WTQ - Head: Quazie
> > > > gFP - Head: grok
> > > > 𒌑შए - Head: 天火狐
> > > >
> > > > New or changed agencies since last weekly:
> > > >
> > > > There are none.
> > > >
> > > > A History of agency related events:
> > > >
> > > > 2017-06-05 - Superintendent's Weekly Report Published
> > > > 2017-06-05 - Quazie establishes BÖÖ
> > > > 2017-06-04 - Publius Scribonius Scholasticus establishes ASC
> > > > 2017-05-27 - Gaelan establishes GII
> > > > 2017-05-27 - CuddleBeam establishes C♥️U
> > > > 2017-05-27 - CuddleBeam establishes C♥️N
> > > > 2017-05-27 - CuddleBeam revokes BGW
> > > > 2017-05-27 - CuddleBeam revokes ACP
> > > > 2017-05-25 - Superintendent's Weekly Report Published
> > > > 2017-05-24 - grok establishes gFP
> > > > 2017-05-23 - 天火狐 establishes 𒌑შए
> > > > 2017-05-23 - Publius Scribonius Scholasticus establishes PRN
> > > > 2017-05-22 - Quazie establishes WTQ
> > > > 2017-05-22 - CuddleBeam establishes ACP
> > > > 2017-05-22 - CuddleBeam establishes BGW
> > > > 2017-05-21 - Quazie changes GOD
> > > > 2017-05-20 - Publius Scribonius Scholasticus establishes SSP
> > > > 2017-05-20 - Gaelan establishes MKD
> > > > 2017-05-20 - Quazie establishes GOD
> > > > 2017-05-18 - Superintendent's Monthly Report Published
> > > > 2017-05-18 - Superintendent's Weekly Report Published
> > > > 2017-04-23 - Aris revokes PDA
> > > > 2017-04-16 - Superintendent's Monthly Report Published
> > > > 2017-02-13 - Aris establishes PDA
> > > >
> > > > [Note: Events and Agencies preceded by a ! are potentially
> > > > invalid pending CFJ]
> > > >
> > > > [Archive available at
https://agoranomic.github.io/Superintende
<https://agoranomic.github.io/Superintende>
> > > > nt/]
> > > >
> > > > ----
> > > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
> > > > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
<mailto:p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > CoE (possibly needs to be a CFJ): C♥️N and C♥️U are not agencies
> > > because they do not empower someone to act on behalf of a player
> > > (because CB is no longer a player).
--
ais523
Arbitor
I've already submitted my arguments, but I wanted to add the reasons I
think this is an interesting CFJ.
If the CFJ is false, then it appears we have a legal fiction that an
entity named CuddleBeam is a player. Any player would, in theory, be
able to do anything the Agency allows on !CuddleBeam's behalf, as long
as e can do it. And since !Cuddlebeam is theoretically a player, that
covers a lot of ground.
If the CFJ is true, then there exists defunct 'Agencies' as legal
entities. We don't assign anyone to track them, but they exist. And when
any person registers as "CuddleBeam", or the definition of Agency
becomes more inclusive, they become ripe for a surprise scam.
