On Wed, 19 Jul 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > Are promises gamestate? Are their status of being broken or not, gamestate? > If so, then no > unregulated action (for example, "If Bob posts a poem on a-d, I will pay them > 4 shinies") > can actually cause the change of them going from unbroken to broken.
It's a bit twisted, but it's *possible* there's a loophole here. I don't think it works with your example, but how about the following: "I pledge to prevent Bob from posting a poem on a-d". If Bob does post a poem to a-d, I've broken my pledge. Which is tracked in that it's cardable, and (due to the poor way the Referee rules are written) creates a platonic requirement for the Referee to track/announce the rule violation. Which makes Bob posting a poem to a-d regulated...? But of course, 'posting a poem' is not something we can practically stop Bob from doing. But we can create a legal fiction around it. We can say "since Bob's poem posting is now regulated, and the rules don't say how e can do it, e CANNOT do it." So, when e posts some text labelled "A Poem by Bob", we create the legal fiction that it's really an *attempt* to post a poem, and we say "you tried to do a regulated thing, but the rules don't say how you CAN do it, so you failed." Which means... legally, I *did* keep my pledge and prevent em from posting a poem :). [note: I think the recent rules change just changes the word "regulated" in the above to "restricted" without affecting any mechanics - kept the term "regulated" for the purposes of this conversation].