On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 07:04 CuddleBeam <cuddleb...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I messed up, sorry. Reposting:
>
> It's a very interesting point but I don't think there is any conflict
>
> How I see it, is that the rules are bugged and if you're Officer A, you're
> screwed, no matter what you do. Just faulty rules.
>
> So I'd go with that if you don't do the thing in time, you get a card as
> for breaking R1. If you do it, you get a card, for breaking R2.
>
> I don't see how an holistic view somehow invalidates that the Officer
> should be able to get a card for violating R2, because R1 "saves" them.
> There is no rule that enables that as far as I know. You could argue that
> the interpretation rules lets you solve the "contradiction"; but I don't
> see the contradiction. I see it as (with sloppy propositional logic):
>
> If you do p, you're screwed. (p-> you're screwed)
> If you don't do p, you're screwed (not p-> you're screwed)
> Ergo
> anything-> you're screwed
>
> So in either p or not p, you're screwed. It's frustrating but its not
> contradictory at all.
>
> For practical reasons, sure, I feel like Officer A shouldn't be screwed
> over. But the rule are the rules. It can be later proposed to cancel all
> criminal charges on them (because the rules were just junk and the guy
> didn't deserve it), we have the power to do any fixes we want a posteriori.
> Any problem is just temporary.
>
>
Well - the problem is if an officer doesn't follow a Duty (meaning a SHALL)
then e can get deputized out of office.  And I know of situations where
some of those SHALLs would be impossible - so you cant succeed at doing the
shall.

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