On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 10:25 AM, CuddleBeam <cuddleb...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Please note that I'm NOT making any pledges here I'm just posting a > hypothetical "suicide pledge" because I think its interesting (and funny). > > ♦️ I hereby pledge (one thousand times) to gain a Red Card. > > (I think you'd get at *least* a collection of Yellow Cards. I don't think > there is actually a pure formal way to get a bunch of Red Cards on > yourself, at least not by casual reading. Suicide scam when.) > This is my interpretation of what would happen if you posted that exact phrase in a public forum: 1) First, an aside: at least to my understanding, you don't need to worry about the lead sentence in that post. Things are only announced if you post them in a public forum: agora-business for player actions, agora-official for office reports. agora-discussion's Publicity switch (rule 478) is set to "discussion," and it must be set to "public" in order for announcements to be binding. 2) That pledge just binds you to gaining Red Cards. It doesn't actually perform the action to assign a Red Card. That action is reserved in rule 2426. If you pledged to gain one thousand Red Cards, you would still have to gain those cards through normal means to fulfill the pledge. 3) Just as an FYI, if you make one thousand pledges, they happen in order as separate events. IDK how CoEs would interact with those pledges if they were all wrong, or even if just one was wrong. Someone wiser than I may have that answer. 4) On to the actual Red Card part now. Issuing a card requires three things: A type of card to be issued, a person to which the card would be issued, and a specific bad faith action for which the person deserves punishment. (I interpret that it can be any person, btw--no language in 2426 that says only players can be issued cards.) If the intent of this "suicide pledge" is to assign a ton of Red Cards to yourself, it would fail because it does not indicate a bad faith action performed by the person they are given to (you). 5) 2426 also tells us that it is a SHALL NOT to issue more than one card for the same infraction. So you would have to commit one thousand separate infractions (it can be the same type one thousand separate times if you want, for sake of theorizing) in order to be given one thousand Red Cards. 6) Red Cards only make a player eligible to have the Book Thrown at em. You can have a massive collection of Red Cards, but AFAIK they would have no effect seven days after they were issued, unless a player Threw the Book at you. 7) I actually don't know if the effects of a Book Throwing would stack in magnitude or duration. That's probably a good question for someone who knows CFJ precedent.. 8) Since this action probably doesn't really do anything substantial anyways, if you tried to do it I would recommend a single Green Card the first time. It wouldn't actually impact the game in a meaningful way besides putting yourself in a compromising position. If you tried to do it twice, I would probably Point a Finger and recommend a Yellow Card. I certainly wouldn't suggest that the referee assign a Yellow Card for every single infraction. -grok
