Do we not have a list of people in power and other public switches? On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 3:13 PM, <agora-discussion-requ...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
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Re: OFF: [ADoP] Promotor election (Aris Merchant) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 22:22:03 -0700 > From: Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> > To: "Agora Nomic discussions (DF)" <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> > Subject: DIS: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals > 7818-19 > Message-ID: > <CAGMr8npXRRZHR6A4sGNO+=4LPoOJr7MYRdZYRM9uSwSUASeRog@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I vote as follows: > > > > 7818+ ais523 1.0 Make Spending Power More Useful > > FOR, on the grounds that the ADoP can remove the Promotor (or at least > start an election) Besides, you can always have a new election, you just > need a lot of support. > > > > > > 7819+ Alexis 1.0 Legislating Convention > > > AGAINST, as per Aranea. > > -Aris > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora- > discussion/attachments/20161021/091ea1a6/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 22:22:49 -0700 > From: Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> > To: "Agora Nomic discussions (DF)" <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> > Subject: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Promotor election > Message-ID: > <CAGMr8nrqfqs1596+Nv8Xwpb2bu9_72VTxqPfPeWsh8iQAhEQyw@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Friday, October 21, 2016, ?rjan Johansen <oer...@nvg.ntnu.no> wrote: > > > > Except if G. managed to counterscam... > > > > Greetings, > > ?rjan. > > Good point, although the ratification without objection should do it. > Still... G., would you do an Alexian collapse (as I will try to get people > to call it, unless we have a name already) (a way of collapsing the > gamestate when the person responsible for an action is unclear, by having > all of the possible actors take the same action.) > > -Aris > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora- > discussion/attachments/20161021/9257fc1c/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 08:11:27 -0700 (PDT) > From: Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> > To: "Agora Nomic discussions (DF)" <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> > Subject: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Promotor election > Message-ID: > <alpine.lrh.2.01.1610220811270.20...@hymn04.u.washington.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > > > On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, ?rjan Johansen wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Oct 2016, ais523 wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 22:02 +0000, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016, 13:41 Luis Ressel <ara...@aixah.de> wrote: > > > > > Congrats to our new Promotor! I'm glad something is interested in > > > > > taking this over after almost two years. If you've got any > > > > > questions about your new job, feel free to write me an email. > > > > > ? > > > > If I am ADoP, I resolve the election as quoted. > > > > > > Thus reducing the ambiguity to who Aris needs to email if e has > > > questions about being Promotor? :-P > > > > Except if G. managed to counterscam... > > Anyone have arguments why the counterscam didn't work, assuming > Alexis's idea works (in general) in the first place? > > If absolute accuracy is required, Alexis's report was only accurate > if the deputization occurs *before* the report is published. I > covered the cases in counterscam for *during* and *after*. > > It doesn't seem likely that a deputization can occur before the report > is published, so are there arguments that it can? (or something > I've missed?) > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 19:32:38 +0200 > From: Luis Ressel <ara...@aixah.de> > To: agora-discussion@agoranomic.org > Subject: Re: DIS: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals > 7818-19 > Message-ID: <20161022193238.3b3a6...@gentp.lnet> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 22:22:03 -0700 > Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I vote as follows: > > > > > > 7818+ ais523 1.0 Make Spending Power More Useful > > > > FOR, on the grounds that the ADoP can remove the Promotor (or at > > least start an election) Besides, you can always have a new election, > > you just need a lot of support. > > > > > > > > > 7819+ Alexis 1.0 Legislating Convention > > > > > AGAINST, as per Aranea. > > > > -Aris > > nttpf > > -- > aarnea > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 11:46:50 -0700 > From: Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> > To: "agora-discussion@agoranomic.org" > <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> > Subject: Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Promotor election > Message-ID: > <CAGMr8nr8n1N16vGB0bRsQ6BT+FbR=kCM6AW9dfU0Y1G4B5cBSw@ > mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Saturday, October 22, 2016, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > > > > I think we just call it "converging the gamestate" (very much not new to > > Alexis. Here you go. > > > Maybe we don't need a new term, but I was talking about the specific case > where the person in an office was unclear. > > -Aris > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora- > discussion/attachments/20161022/b405e5e7/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 12:10:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> > To: "Agora Nomic discussions (DF)" <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> > Subject: Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Promotor election > Message-ID: > <alpine.lrh.2.01.1610221210420.2...@hymn01.u.washington.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > > > On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, Aris Merchant wrote: > > On Saturday, October 22, 2016, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > > > > I think we just call it "converging the gamestate" (very much not > new to > > Alexis.? Here you go. > > > > Maybe we don't need a new term, but I was talking about the specific > case where > > the person in an office was unclear. > > During something called the "Annabel Crisis", some actions led to > questioning who held just about every office. I think we got every > single player to announce "I resign the office of Assessor" to be > 100% sure the office was vacant, then someone took the job up to > announce the Proposal results that retroactively fixed things. > > (my memory is hazy, it might have happened differently, but it did > take every single player announcing some particular action to be > sure of an office-holder - this was before self-ratification, and > the proposal we had to pass was to ratify everything in place, once > we were sure who held Assessor). > > Other note: A fair thing to do would be to hold an election. But > election for ADoP is resolved by ADoP - a problem! We actually > used to have "separation of powers" for this, something that read: > > "In the case that the election is for the office of ADoP, the > vote collector is instead [other officer]". > > Probably should bring that back! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 12:13:39 -0700 > From: Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> > To: "Agora Nomic discussions (DF)" <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> > Subject: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Promotor election > Message-ID: > <CAGMr8nrfk+SRdUDuUnHroeBLk52dDc73MwPQt9jb > 548fokc...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Saturday, October 22, 2016, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ke...@u.washington.edu');>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Anyone have arguments why the counterscam didn't work, assuming > > Alexis's idea works (in general) in the first place? > > > > If absolute accuracy is required, Alexis's report was only accurate > > if the deputization occurs *before* the report is published. I > > covered the cases in counterscam for *during* and *after*. > > > > It doesn't seem likely that a deputization can occur before the report > > is published, so are there arguments that it can? (or something > > I've missed?) > > There's one way it could be, although it seems unlikely and is going to be > dismissed as too fuzzy. It has to do with how wrong something has to be to > not be a report. One could argue that there is a fun > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora- > discussion/attachments/20161022/a8fd561b/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > agora-discussion mailing list > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org > http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/agora-discussion > > > ------------------------------ > > End of agora-discussion Digest, Vol 37, Issue 13 > ************************************************ >
