If I'm not mistaken, this hasn't gone through yet.
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Tanner Swett <[email protected]>
> Date: August 3, 2013 4:25:43 PM EDT
> To: "Agora Nomic discussions \(DF\)" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: DIS: Ambassador's Survey - Your Chance To Win Great Prizes!
>
> On Aug 3, 2013, at 12:01 PM, Charles Walker wrote:
>> On 3 Aug 2013, at 15:38, Tanner Swett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> - Where is it appropriate to advertise Agora? What kind of fora? Any
>>>> specific sites?
>>>
>>> Anywhere where there are lots of people who would enjoy playing Agora. I
>>> don't know where such people are.
>>
>> What other corners of the Internet do current Agorans hang out in?
>
> Probably mostly stuff related to math and programming, I guess.
>
>>> Not sure. Agora's pretty complicated. Currently, it seems like most of our
>>> appeal is in "pure nomic fun": memorizing mechanics, figuring out how they
>>> apply in various situations (and how to convince others you're right), and
>>> figuring out how to make them work in your favor. I imagine most people
>>> don't find "pure nomic fun" all that fun.
>>
>> Would you say that "pure nomic fun" = "rules lawyering"?
>
> Yeah, I think so.
>
>>> Oh, and also publish reports online in a prominent place. Probably make all
>>> the Agoran sites subdomains of agoranomic.org, in order to make them seem
>>> more like a single site rather than a collection of unrelated sites.
>>
>> Agora has (well-founded) worries about centralised recordkeeping. Still,
>> it's a good idea to compile reports in one place. Is the H. Distributor
>> willing to make this happen? We could make an office (the Compilor?) for the
>> task.
>>
>> What about a wiki?
>
> If I understand correctly, the main worry about centralized recordkeeping is
> that if it goes down for some reason, we lose all our records. And yeah, that
> makes sense.
>
> The domain name thing wouldn't really be centralized recordkeeping, though.
> We could just do something like making rules.agoranomic.org/xyz a transparent
> redirect to www.eecs.berkeley.edu/~charles/agora/xyz. When the Rulekeepor
> changes, point the domain name somewhere else. Likewise with
> cotc.agoranomic.org. (By the way, is the source code for the CotC site
> publicly available somewhere?)
>
> I really liked B Nomic's wiki, and BlogNomic's seems really useful as well. I
> see no good reason for an Agora wiki not to merely exist.
>
>> What we need is gameplay that isn't separate from Agora without just being
>> voting games. Probably the best way to do this is to make the sub-game a
>> source/sink for Yaks, although there are other ways.
>
> Gameplay is good.
>
> Why did we get rid of contests? The thing about proposals in Agora is that
> the turnaround time is really long: if you submit a proposal on Tuesday the
> 6th, it'll probably get distributed on Monday the 12th, and the voting period
> will last until Monday the 19th, and perhaps the Assessor will resolve it on
> Wednesday the 21st, for a typical turnaround time of about fifteen days.
> Contests, in their most recent incarnation, could be amended "without 3
> objections", which only takes four days.
>
> I also see no good reason to disallow contests from amending themselves.
>
> (Compare BlogNomic, which has a *maximum* voting period of two days.)
>
>> Regarding the glossary and rules summaries, should these be added to an
>> existing office (Registrar?) or should we make a new one?
>
> I dunno. What reasons are there not to make a new office?
>
> —Machiavelli
