On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 15:49 +0000, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 07:29 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, Alex Smith wrote:
> > > I support. If someone says something not in the rules with an intent to
> > > perform an action, normally it is reasonable to presume they meant the
> > > correct version not the incorrect version (per R754); however, if the
> > > rules in question have recently changed, there is enough doubt to
> > > prevent the intention being clear (as is currently required for
> > > dependent actions).
> > 
> > Let me get this straight--- you and ehird honestly and truly believe
> > that a change *that happened before you registered in the game and
> > you never saw* can be reasonably confused with an old rule?  (Apologies
> > if I've got registration dates mixed).  And that comex citing A RULE 
> > THAT HAS BEEN OUT OF THE RULESET FOR YEARS is backup evidence?  Can you 
> > at least, vaguely, occasionally, *try to pretend* that you're willing to 
> > let judgements stand in place of your self-interest?  Just as an 
> > *occasional* courtesy?
> > 
> I was just taking comex on trust that the rule was recently modified,
> possibly I shouldn't have been...
> 
OK, I checked. The language "Ordinary proposals" was in rule 2156/4
until 2 February 2008, when it was replaced by rule 2156/5. That's not
"OUT OF THE RULESET FOR YEARS", Feb 2008 is quite recent.

Even more importantly, Rule 2126/52 said "VVLOP" until 21 June 2008;
that definitely isn't ancient history. I amended it to "VVLOD" in rule
2125/53 myself. "*that happened before you registered in the game and
you never saw*"? I fixed it myself! Of course I saw it!

I shouldn't have taken Goethe on trust that it's a very old change,
either... Goethe, I sort-of would have expected comex to lie about old
rules, but you?

-- 
ais523

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