On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, comex wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I think we're in agreement, actually, (comex, you and myself) just the
>> victim of my imperfectly trying to parse a not-quite-perfectly written
>> CFJ statement.
>
> Personally, I don't think wearing a hat is part of the gamestate in
> any way whatsoever; therefore it cannot be ratified, even for an
> instant.  Hence you could ratify whether someone got a French Flag,
> but not whether they were actually wearing the hat.  Rule 1551 makes
> it clear, I think, that ratification cannot even attempt to change the
> past:

*sigh* the whole point is that your cfj wasn't about wearing a hat in
the specific, but about hypothetical properties "such as... wearing a 
hat, the same as another person, etc. ".  Given such a list I had
what you found in common in that list, and given that you wrote
it as general properties with a list of examples, treat it as a question
of what the rules *could generally* allow to be ratified given the current 
ratification rules, rather than what specific records are currently
tracked.  I almost said "This is UNDETERMINED because the examples you 
give in this hypothetical don't have enough in common to extrapolate to 
general properties" but I made a try, maybe I wish I hadn't now.

But moving on, other than verification issues, there's *no reason* we 
couldn't pass a rule that says "comex is the recordkeepor for whether 
someone was actually, physically wearing a hat on each day and will 
record the days on which day each person wore a hat" thus making it 
ratifiable as a past condition.  

-Goethe



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