On Jan 24, 2008 9:57 PM, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1881
>
> ==============================  CFJ 1881  ==============================
>
>      rule 2029 requires Agorans to always Dance a Powerful Dance.
>
> ========================================================================

Proto-judgement (yes, it is serious):

Rule 2029/0 (Power=4)
Town Fountain

                      /\   /\
                      / \ / \
                         T
                        his
                      Power-4
               Rule (the first ever)
                was placed to honor
           The Agoran  Spirit Of The Game
           by Goethe, Steve, Murphy, root
           and OscarMeyr, Scamsters. Look
           on our works, ye Marvy, but do
      always Dance a Powerful Dance.  Hail Eris!

If Rule 2029 does in fact impose any obligations, it does so only to Marvies.

I had always thought that "marvy" was an actual word.  However, as far
as I can tell from the dictionary, it is not.  It has, however, been
defined in Agora.

>From an old ruleset:

Rule 1686/10 (Power=1)
Official Reports
...
      The rules may specify conditions under which a player is marvy;
      that player is not marvy unless the rules explicitly state at
      least one such condition and all such conditions are satisfied.
      As soon as possible after a player becomes marvy, the Speaker
      shall announce this fact.  The only condition for marviness is
      membership in the Outer Cabinet.

Rule 1905/1 (Power=1)
The Cabinet

      The Cabinet, or Inner Cabinet, consists of the Speaker and all
      electees to office.  The Outer Cabinet consists of all Oligarchs
      who are not members of the Inner Cabinet.

Rule 1932/4 (Power=2)
The Oligarchy

      (a) The Oligarchy is the set of all Players who are Oligarchs.

      (b) An Oligarch may resign eir position in the Oligarchy by
          publicly announcing that e does so. Upon such an
          announcement, e ceases to be an Oligarch.

The change that introduced marviness was Proposal 4250:
Amended(10) by Proposal 4250 (harvel), 19 February 2002
...well before 4329 and the creation of the Town Fountain.

Rule 754 says that the Town Fountain should be interpreted with its
ordinary-language meaning.  Since I do not know any other definition
of 'marvy', the meaning I would interpret were it used in ordinary
language, and applied to Agora, would be the closest current Agoran
version of what a marvy was.

This, then, would be any Oligarch who is not an officeholder.  The
Oligarchy was a paid position, something which we don't have an exact
equivalent or namesake of.  However, we do have Senators, which are
somewhat similar.

Since Senators-- or indeed, non-officeholders-- are a subset of
Agorans in general, CFJ 1881 is hereby judged FALSE, regardless of
whether Rule 2029 imposes an obligation.

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