On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Ian Kelly wrote: > Ok, so the panel did say that the prior judge's ruling was "clearly > wrong", which was too strong a phrasing in retrospect. The arguments > used to support that statement indicated that the prior judge's > arguments were "clearly wrong", not necessarily eir ruling.
Let me try this once more (humbly for the appeals' board consideration). There are really three binary questions here as follows: BobTHJ gave an (a) correct/incorrect judgement for the (b) right/wrong reasons in (c) good/bad faith. All branches are: Correct -> right -> good = INNOCENT (appropriate) Correct -> wrong -> good = ? (EXCUSED or INNOCENT - CFJ 1871) Incorrect -> right -> good = impossible/trivial Incorrect -> wrong -> good = EXCUSED (CFJ 1804) Correct -> right -> bad = INNOCENT Correct -> wrong -> bad = ? (GUILTY or INNOCENT - CFJ 1871) Incorrect -> right -> bad = impossible/trivial Incorrect -> wrong -> bad = GUILTY Now, the CFJ 1860 appeals court has stated that the arguments were wrong. That leaves us with: Correct -> wrong -> bad = ? (GUILTY or INNOCENT - CFJ 1871) Incorrect -> wrong -> bad = GUILTY Correct -> wrong -> good = ? (EXCUSED or INNOCENT - CFJ 1871) Incorrect -> wrong -> good = EXCUSED (CFJ 1804) Now here's where the standard of proof comes in. I argue, that the arguments, even if wrong, were not *bad enough* to show bad intent beyond a reasonable doubt (for that, see a certain case of iambic pentameter). This is where those sniffing at bribery may differ: I say, if you want to forbid bribery, make a Rule. The reasonable doubt standard is applying common sense and game custom to a criminal matter where the rules are silent. That leaves us with: Correct -> wrong -> good = ? (EXCUSED or INNOCENT - CFJ 1871) Incorrect -> wrong -> good = EXCUSED (CFJ 1804) As long as CFJ 1860 is unjudged, the above cases can't be distinguished. Perhaps SLIPPERY. But I went with something that assumes a TRUE judgement in CFJ 1871 (that's the second bone of contention), which would lead to EXCUSED in either of the above remaining situations. -Goethe