On 3/18/26 19:21, Mischief via agora-business wrote:
> On 3/16/26 5:36 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-discussion wrote:
>> On 3/16/26 17:35, Mischief via agora-discussion wrote:
>>> On 3/16/26 4:59 PM, Janet Cobb via agora-business wrote:
>>>
>>>> I vote [ais523, Janet] in the ongoing Prime Minister election.
>>> Is this considered sufficiently clear to become a candidate by announcement?
>>> At face value, I don't know if it meets R478's "both clearly and
>>> unambiguously" test. (If there's existing precedent, though, that could
>>> swing things the other way.)
>>>
>> Well, for what it's worth, I certainly didn't intend to become one.
> I CFJ on the statement: Janet is a candidate in the ongoing Prime Minister
> election
>
>
> Arguments
> =========
>
> I believe the following facts are undisputed:
>
> 1. There is an ongoing election for Prime Minister, and it is still possible
> to become a candidate by announcement
>
> 2. Janet had not, prior to voting, become a candidate in this election
>
> 3. Janet cast a vote in the election that, at face value, considered emself
> a candidate
>
> Does casting a vote for oneself pass the hurdles required by rules 2154
> ("any player CAN become a candidate by announcement") and 478 (excerpted
> below)?
>
> Where the rules define an action that a person CAN perform "by
> announcement", that person performs that action by, in a single
> public message, specifying the action and setting forth intent to
> perform that action by sending that message, doing both clearly
> and unambiguously.
>
> Janet later clarified that e did not intend to become a candidate, but that
> may not be relevant here. If I intend to vote FOR proposal A and AGAINST
> proposal B, but by mistake write it the other way around in my message, the
> actual message trumps the intent. Likewise, if I specify an unintended but
> valid recipient when transferring assets, my transfer would still stand.
>
> (Note: Janet's clarification was not sent to a public forum, so if eir vote
> did make em a candidate, the clarification did not subsequently satisfy
> R2154's mechanism for ceasing to be a candidate by announcement)
>
Gratuitous:
I certainly failed to "specify" the action of becoming a candidate.
There's no mention of the word "candidate" or any suggestion that I'd
have liked to become one. I've also done this bit before [0].
[0]:
https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2021-February/045883.html
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Janet Cobb
Assessor, Rulekeepor
