That's a really dangerous delusion. Not just video but simulated environments have ramped up physical skills training dramatically and will continue to do so. Indeed, the current ML algorithms are better suited for physical skills than they are language modeling for the simple reason that reasoning is more important in language domains. Doubt it? Look at all the trouble people are having even defining "reasoning" with LLMs.
The gold rush sparked by that idiot Turing's "test" as the benchmark for "AI", rather than Solomonoff's benchmark of lossless compression, has unmoored technological civilization's vast power from the most principled definition of data-driven truth, and cast us adrift subject to the chaos of minds like Altman's. On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 3:40 AM twenkid <twen...@gmail.com> wrote: > > *Sam Altman,* CEO of OpenAI, founded in 2015: (the clip is from > 28.2.2023) > "Yeah, it probably is just like, we look in a hundred years, it can do the > whole creative job ... I think it's interesting that if you asked people 10 > years ago about how AI will have an impact, with a lot of confidence from > almost ... most people you would've heard ... first it's gonna come from > the blue collar jobs, working in the factories, truck drivers, whatever ... > Then it will come from the low skill white collar jobs. Then the very high > skill, like really high IQ white caller jobs, like programmer or > whatever... and maybe very last of all and maybe never, it's gonna take the > creative jobs. ... and it's really gone exactly ... it is going exactly the > other direction. ... I think there's an interesting reminder here, > generally about how hard predictions are, but more specifically about we're > not always very aware .. maybe even ourselves of what skills are hard and > easy. Like what uses most of our brain and what doesn't .... how difficult > bodies are to control or make or whatever. " > https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VVBAy1cPACw > > Todor Arnaudov, founder, "CEO", "CTO", "R&D" and "blue collar" at The > Sacred Computer AGI institute, founded in 2000: *2.10.2013:* > "* Creative Intelligence will be First Surpassed and Blown Away by the > Thinking Machines, not the "low-skill" workers whose jobs require agile and > quick physical motion and interactions with human-sized and human-shaped > environment"* > (an answer to wrong prediction by an "expert" later hugely cited and > working for Oxford University) > > https://artificial-mind.blogspot.com/2013/10/creative-intelligence-will-be-first.html > """(...) > The "creative intelligence" is hard for the humans, especially hard for > average people and average researchers, engineers or whatever to understand > and explain. > > They don't understand their own intentions, "schema", behavior, reasons, > they don't know why they do or choose precisely what they did etc., can't > remember and analyse that information good enough. > > And the overall problem is not that versatile general intelligence is so > complex, it is that the humans are too dumb to fit it in their tiny "RAM". > (...) > "The low-skill workers which are agile and fit in human environment (for > example waiters) are harder to get replaced by humanoid robots - those > robots are not yet mass produced and for a long time will be more expensive > and harder to build than to hire a human. Also humans like human waiters, > especially attractive women. > > For the intellectual jobs - it's much easier to pick a computer, run the > appropriate software or connect it to the service, and get it thinking - > you already have decent cameras, microphones and many sensors even in > smartphones. > > There are tens of billions of already available computers - or much more? > - and many of them in my estimates are fast enough even now, and even 5 or > 10 years ago, for many "highly intellectual" human-level and super-human > level activities. > > Actually computers were super humans for many decades - from the > beginning, but that's another topic. > > *The bottom line is that the "white collars" are more endangered in > current-time economy. Perhaps that kind of economy could hardly survive the > AGI revolution.* > > I guess it may upside down for a while - *the low-skill workers could get > higher pay, because intellectual activities will be done in 1 ms for > free... ;)* > > We, the smart guys (the smart asses, see "Super Smartasses" the graphical > series ) wouldn't be needed by anyone... Not that we are needed now. :)) > > Maybe the change won't be that big. :D > """" > > One of the side reasons for the incompetence of the "experts" up to now > when they see the obvious, is that they themselves are "white collars" and > they see the "blue collars" as inferior to them. Actually many of the so > called "clever" or "high IQ" white collars are not such, the metrics are > wrong etc. (...) > > See other comments by the same author in this email list etc. in the early > 2010, such as that *"intelligence is way simpler than it seems"* (for the > most humans, who don't understand or hardly do even trivial creative > writing, music composition or performance; or programming etc.** ). > > Of course, also the Moravec paradox, however it was not about the > "creative" part, it's about "computers do only what tell them to do". > Creativity was supposed to be something else and "radically different" and > this is reflected in the wrong view of most homo sapiens. > > ... > > *If you can, join and support:* > > *The Sacred Computer: Thinking Machines, Creativity and Human Development*The > true visionary AGI research institute, even when it was run by a single boy > with his obsolete PCs in late 1990s-early 2000s. LOL. 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