The p-zombie barrier is the mental block preventing us from understanding that there is no test for something that is defined as having no test for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophical_zombie
Turing began his famous 1950 paper with the question, "can machines think?" To answer that, he had to define "think" in a way that makes sense for computers. For the last 74 years, nobody has come up with a more widely accepted definition. The answer now is yes. It requires nothing more than text prediction. And consider that consciousness requires even less than that, if you believe that babies and animals are conscious. The mental block comes from evolution. You feel like you are conscious, that thinking feels like more than just computation, something worth preserving. Of course we understand that feelings are also things that we know how to compute, something that an LLM learns how to model in humans. Actually having feelings means that the LLM was programmed to carry out its predictions in real time. On Mon, Jun 17, 2024, 4:55 PM John Rose <johnr...@polyplexic.com> wrote: > On Monday, June 17, 2024, at 4:14 PM, James Bowery wrote: > > https://gwern.net/doc/cs/algorithm/information/compression/1999-mahoney.pdf > > > I know, I know that we could construct a test that breaks the p-zombie > barrier. Using text alone though? Maybe not. Unless we could somehow makes > our brains not serialize language but simultaneously multi-stream > symbols... gotta be a way :) > > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T6510028eea311a76-Madd96d99e30a08326350c050> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T6510028eea311a76-Mdfc28c1090701a14088639f4 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
