Exactly. Most humans want to stay alive (and eat, mate, and build homes etc, which leads to more survival), and they know they can't live past 100 (else they would). Most humans don't attempt living past 100 however, because it's a technical field; AGI, stem cells, etc, it's not predictable by most, it's perplexing (surprise). Nonetheless this is the way we are moving; long term survival that will give all humans 170+ years life extension. Robots can easily be immortal by replacing parts. We hate pain because we hate death, that's all. Pleasure leads to survival, and survival leads to more pleasure hence more survival.
Nobody is left out. Most want to survive. Evolution needs many soldier ants in case many fail. But what if we wanted to kill some people and recreate them to transport them somewhere? There's nothing to fear now. The swarm will survive and you come back too, and grow bigger. It's just change, like bending, blinking, eating, adding memories, losing memory, replacing arms, replacing dead skin cells, heat, air. We already die every moment. Simply the machine is saying it's OK. Ya, sure, OK. Our desire is a certain outcome, all change is death and birth. So there's no way to change your thinking on suicide but when we program robots we can make it happen. After all physics is what does happen, it will and we can't change the law, so it must be right and we are happy to follow it. We aren't lucky to have these physics, no matter the physics we would be happy/lucky to get what we get because we must and all is particles n matter the physics. Yes we talk about physics and encodings/models of the world and yes maybe this is the only way physics is/can be but it's all still just particles following laws. All matter makes decisions using surrounding context, a river in a lake, a straw in your soda popping or moving all on its own, etc. The layperson sees the vision from their eyes and thinks wow I actually can see my room etc as if I'm actually in it! No, you are processing it at the back of your brain. The whole body is a machine. There's no way to test if there is a ghost created from a machine doing something, it's just the cave men thinking it because of a reason to explain the human body which they don't understand and also a way to have a reason to live and not be a recycled machine. In reality you are only useful to others if you are or, if you protect yourself. Rocks don't. ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T117bc2d94b89dd03-M4acb3878e95d3e20c90a4343 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
