> I once had a related incident, where in high-school I was accosted by a gang of 5 teenage switch-blade-carrying delinquents
THAT happened to you? OMG. Our schools are bad too, but not like that I guess. Kudos for solving this situation. Are you going to tell us how you did it? On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 at 08:34, Steve Richfield <[email protected]> wrote: > I am helping a friend get ready for a million-dollar mediation - and we > are wrestling with a complex issue that appears to be mathematical in > nature, akin to the Prisoner's Dilemma, and possibly a missing piece of AGI. > > The situation is complicated, but in a way like Israel or Ireland where > two groups think they own the same thing, so they get together to discuss > how this might be unfairly divided between them. My group sees the other as > robbers who have acted fraudulently to secure their position, while the > other group has papers in place giving them effective title - but with a > 20-year wait to get anything. The mediation is how to divide up the money > now, with some dangerous but uncertain leverage to ruin the robbers in > court if they don't act reasonably. > > This seems to all boil down to “robber’s rules”. Why don’t robbers > routinely kill their victims and strip them of their valuables? This is > addressed in *Adventures in Arabia* by William Seabrook. There are > several reasons – that all seem to sort of apply here: > 1. Other robbers will see killers as being without principle, and so > won’t trust them to fairly divide the booty. Therefore, it is more > profitable to first kill the prospective killer – instead of the victim. > 2. Blood is SO messy – when simply the threat of death can probably > accomplish the same thing. > 3. If you don’t leave your victim with SOMETHING he might perish, and > his death would be blamed on you. > 4. If you are too greedy, others will hear about it and mount a posse > to come after you. > 5. If he has powerful friends, this could result in your own death. > > In a real-life incident described in his book, the author was accosted out > in the middle of the dessert by a band of bandits. He produced a note > written in Arabic he had been given to address such situations. The robbers > carefully read the note – and sent him on his way without robbing him. How > could any words possibly have turned such a situation around? His next goal > was to find out precisely what the note said… > > I once had a related incident, where in high-school I was accosted by a > gang of 5 teenage switch-blade-carrying delinquents – very much like the > last scene in *Westside Story*. I was able to walk away uninjured. I > starting by challenging their leader… > > I would think that SOMEONE has studied this sort of thing in the past - > does anyone here know of such a study? > > Mediations seem SO much like ball squeezing contests. So, what is the > winning strategy? > > With no agreement my group gets nothing, and the other group must wait 20 > years to get it all. With an agreement, we cut this baby in two according > to agreed upon percentages. > > There seems to be two camps: > 1. Demand 100%, or else Russian Roulette in court with maybe a 50:50 > chance, and > 2. Divide it in half or ??? > > There will doubtless be head games, Mutt and Jeff setups, etc., as this > thing unfolds. > > I posted this here because SO much of what people here expect an AGI to > resolve are disputes much like this one. > > Thoughts? > > Steve Richfield > > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T5dd6b6c7d648588e-Mcc256f26dd21539cf369f97e> > -- Stefan Reich BotCompany.de // Java-based operating systems ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T5dd6b6c7d648588e-Ma26438309030794b18e10f3a Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
