Actually, what is degenerate is the attempt to portray key concepts of AGI as less than vitally involved in determining whether we suffer a civil war over "race". AGI is the attempt to formalize rationality in such a way that irrationality such as "racism" is rigorously, rather than emotionally or morally, dispatched to the dustbin of history.
Instead, what we get are attempts to regulate the outcome of rigorous model selection criteria offered by AGI, so as to conform to widely accepted notions of rationality -- and this is justified on _moral_ grounds. This is theocratic supremacy, and it will produce a conflict similar in quality to that which killed 25% of Europe's population to escape theocratic supremacy ending in the Peace of Westphalia after over a hundred years of religious wars. When I talk about the relevance of "Solomonoff Induction" to software engineering in the context of cheap foreign labor, not only am I deadly serious, I'm speaking from direct experience with the highest levels of Microsoft Corporation. To wit, not only did I go to college with Ray Ozzie, to whom Gates turned over chief architect position, but Ray considered me one of his more gifted colleagues -- enough so that I was one of the few he attempted to recruit into Iris Associates circa 1985. When Ray took over at MS, I approached him with Solomonoff Induction's value via what became the Hutter Prize for Lossless Compression of Human Knowledge. Moreover, I suggested that software engineering quality be advanced at Microsoft by offering an internal prize for the teams that could produce ever smaller executable images that would expand into an environment passing MS's QA for the entire suite of MS software. Those who don't understand how this would advance the state of the art in software quality, software engineering and AGI are, sad to say, typical of the field -- all the more so with the addiction not only to H-1b guest slavery, but to the highly evolved sycophancy of ancient cultures that can smell economic rent streams from across the globe and pull out all the stops to capture it from less highly evolved elites lulled into an opiated sleep by monopoly profits. Now, for the coup de grace, my dear anti-racist friends: Theories of social causality are notoriously difficult to in/validate due to the lack of experimental controls teasing correlation from causation. So we're left wandering in a miasma of quasi-theological rhetoric posing as "social science". HOWEVER, if the combination of explosions in bioinformatics, social data collection and computation capacity could be brought together with Solomonoff Induction's model selection criterion of maximally compressed data, words like "racism" might enjoy something of a renaissance of legitimacy with rigorous operational definitions, rather than killing off 25% of the people of the west. I would STRONGLY advise those of you who identify with the immigrant population, now occupying the heights of the information industry, to relax, recognize that you don't need to block men like me from influencing you now that we are at retirement age and can no longer threaten to take your high levels of authority, and act like you have something to lose now that you've captured Western Civilization's nervous system. This is about as friendly as I can be with supremacists. On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 7:13 PM Matthew Brown <mbrow...@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > Thank you. > Yes, can we please all get off these degenerate topics and back to AGI. > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 4:55 PM Aurelien RAINONE < > aurelien.rain...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What a racist, short-minded nonsense am I reading here. If you guys are >> writing AGI, we're in the shit but as it seems: you aren't... >> >> At least nowadays immigrants do not kill everybody upon disembarking, >> like WASP boat-people did years ago when they came from the actual slum >> that was Ireland. >> >> >> On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 20:15 , <keghnf...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Here in Los Angeles there are people living under ever bridge. >>> They have signs that say 'Struggling artist, writer, or actor. >>> Foreigners have all the >>> jobs'. >>> You go to these foreigner counters and they are never ending scum vile >>> of drama. >>> They have concept of art, acting, inventing, or AI. >>> >>> Once thy kill off the the dreamer they make the LA into the counter the >>> came from. >>> >>> New out of the box ideas and concepts are fragile. And the developer >>> will be in a weaker >>> state. This is when they will step on you. >>> >>> Trump can not build that wall fast enough. >>> >>> I got a job with Rothschild Conceptions JUST in the nick of time. This >>> save my AZZ. >>> >>> >>> >> *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + delivery > options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T8eabd59f2f06cc50-Mbce086d4f4efbc79308b8f0b> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T8eabd59f2f06cc50-Mbfb4c5e709f9a5641cf195dd Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
