Dear Jon

This is an exciting project!! I have been wanting to do something similar with 
the UNESCO heritage sites for so long - and am so glad you have initiated this 
plan. I will definitely be helping - And I think we can definitely help to get 
the word out in several countries across Africa!! 

Warmest
Isla
 


> On 26 Apr 2016, at 10:50 PM, Florence Devouard <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Le 26/04/16 14:54, john cummings a écrit :
>> Hi all
> 
> hi John
>> 
>> I have met a few of you over Skype and in person before at Wikimedia events, 
>> I'm currently working at UNESCO.
>> 
>> May 5th is African World Heritage Day and I was thinking about running a 
>> small online campaign for it.
>> 
>> http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1364/
>>  <http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1364/>
>> I have an idea and would like to know what you thought and how it could be 
>> improved upon.
> I think it is a great idea...
> 
>> 
>> I would like to encourage editors in many languages to write Wikipedia and 
>> Wikivoyage articles about the World Heritage sites in Africa through social 
>> media and also on Wikipedia and Wikivoyage.
>> 
>> I want to make this as multilingual as possible so I've used dynamic 
>> Wikidata Lists to create this table which shows which articles are available 
>> in which language. I think its a really nice way to create a project 'hit 
>> list' using Wikidata.
>> 
>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/dynamic.html?#list=148
>>  <https://tools.wmflabs.org/listeria/dynamic.html?#list=148>
>> There are a few Wikidata items down the bottom of the list that are blank or 
>> with very few articles, I need to fix this, they're duplicate items so don't 
>> point to any articles or only one or two. 
> 
> Great table
> The one thing I am missing here to make it appealing is... 
> 1) the name of the country where the site is located
> 2) whether there is at least an image of the site, or not. Ideally... link to 
> Commons category page IF it can be automated.
> 
> My personal suggestions are 
> 1) that table should be transfered on a wiki page
> 2) that it be divided in two tables actually... one about wikipedia and the 
> other about wikivoyage
> 3) name of country added
> 4) organise it per country perhaps ?
> 5) for each article, we could add an indicator to show the general state of 
> it (without making it painful. Something fairly simple)
> 
> Whilst meta would be a cool place to coordinate that... the real effect is ON 
> the project itself (Wikipedia...) for a simple good reason... it is exciting 
> to see the blue links and the red links.
> On meta... everything is blue... whether it exists or does not exist. 
> 
> 
>> 
>> Some questions I'm currently thinking about:
>> What languages should be included in the list? The languages I currently 
>> have are the 6 UN languages + a few other popular languages but this is easy 
>> to change. 
> am not sure
>> What should be the aim of the campaign? E.g to create articles where they 
>> don't exist in smaller Wikipedias.
> well... I have a question. I see 137 items (and you say a few are 
> duplicates). Do those are the entirety of WH sites ? (= is there at least one 
> article in one language for each site; or are some sites missing ? If some 
> are missing... how many sites are missing ? )
> If ALL sites are listed here... make it a call for translation (and 
> improvement if people feel like it)
> If SOME sites are missing... make it a call to make sure that ALL sites have 
> at least one article in a language
> 
> Make it a 2-4 weeks effort. 
> 
> 
>> Should I include both Wikivoyage and Wikipedia or just stick to Wikipedia, 
>> or should I split into two tables?
> both. Two tables
>> Is the tool easy enough for experienced editors to use to find where 
>> articles don't exist yet? Its a shame they can't click on a button where the 
>> gap is to just write or translate the article.
> Not simple enough. Should be a wiki table with links to explain rules and 
> translation tool etc.
>> Does anyone want to work with me on this?
> I love it. Not sure how much time I will have to dedicate to it though. On 
> the 5th, unless it is cancelled, I will be travelling (somewhere in Marocco). 
> But I can help a bit I am sure. 
>  
>> Where and how should we encourage people to take part
> On social media, we have plenty of accounts to relay this (usergroups, 
> wikilovesafrica, wikiafrica etc.). Project pages could be created on local 
> wikipedias.... we can quite easily do it in French and English. But need to 
> find local relays for other languages (if no local relay... use meta at least 
> to have a global page and tables). Can get Wikimedia Foundation to do a blog 
> (ask Ed). Then village pumps. Some mouvements can help relay as well, such as 
> WikiFranca. 
> 
>> Does this need a homepage or can it simply be a tweet that can be 
>> translated? This would allow it to be shared in many languages easily.
> Depends how much time you can dedicate to this. But the idea seems cool 
> enough to do more than a tweet. 
>> All thoughts welcome 
> 
> Flo
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> John
>> 
> 
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