That should not be on this thread. You can start a new thread on "Wikimedia Project in Africa". The thread on Wikimania 2016 Schorlarship remain the same. Don't divert attention, please!.
Best, Olatunde Isaac. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sender: "African-Wikimedians" <[email protected]>Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 20:33:05 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: African-Wikimedians Digest, Vol 8, Issue 41 Send African-Wikimedians mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of African-Wikimedians digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Wikimania 2016 Schorlarship (Nkansah Rexford) 2. Re: Wikimania (rupert THURNER) 3. Wikimania (Nkansah Rexford) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 22:31:44 +0000 From: Nkansah Rexford <[email protected]> To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians <[email protected]> Cc: Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]>, [email protected] Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] Wikimania 2016 Schorlarship Message-ID: <caah37truecnx2s8eev69otzkkhjvhhtd-g_wdlet5grza63...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Awesome! Asaf throws an invite to all. I start my clock and bookmark this thread. If you would take me up on this invitation, I would love to hear your thoughts on work in Africa, beyond Wikimania scholarships. Well said, Asaf, well said! I personally would love to also hear the thoughts of everyone on the invite above. On 11 Mar 2016 10:03 pm, "Asaf Bartov" <[email protected]> wrote: I hear you, Olaniyan, and understand you are feeling alienated and demotivated by not receiving a scholarship. Regarding your assertion that the selection criteria are unfair, I think that to agree with it would require you to present an actual argument against one or more of those criteria, and I invite you to do so. I also invite you to think about what else might be done to support and promote the creation and sharing of free knowledge in Africa, beyond awarding a few more scholarships to Africans. I remind you that the Wikimedia Foundation is eager to support mission-aligned work, including experimentation, through the various grants programs[1], and that there is a wealth of written materials about program design and best practices[2][3][4], for African volunteers motivated to do more programmatic work in Africa. If you would take me up on this invitation, I would love to hear your thoughts on work in Africa, beyond Wikimania scholarships. A. [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start [2] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/ [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Learning_patterns [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Program_Toolkits On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:32 AM, shola ishola <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi All, > > I am writing this mail in solidarity with all active Wikipedians in Africa > . I felt rather alienation and de-motivated by the announcement of the > result of Wikimania Scholarship 2016. I have reviewed the parameters for > the selection of candidacy for the above mentioned event and I came to the > conclusion that the selection is not fair to us (WUGN) and Africa in > general. Considering what we did withinn the shortest period of the > recognition of our group, we are more than qualify to be represented at the > event. > > Perhaps, we may be considered to be too young... I wish to state here... > what's the benefit of an event that won't be developmental in nature. We > are the future of the movement. Frankly speaking, Africa remains Virgin in > term of the wikimedia concepts and projects compare to other continents. In > my opinion, resources should be channel to assist the continents rather > than the already developed one. > > Lastly, if indeed we are so serious about the projects and the movement. > Then, special quota and interest should be created for developing > continents rather than the developed ones. > > Submitted. > > Olaniyan Olushola > Director, WUGN > Treasurer, FOSSFA > MD, Olbims Consulting > Phone: +2348154876844 > Email: [email protected] > Email: [email protected] > Email:[email protected] > User page: Olaniyan Olushola > Facebook: Olaniyan Shola > Twitter :Olaniyan73 > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians > > -- Asaf Bartov Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. 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URL: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/african-wikimedians/attachments/20160311/69733c65/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:57:59 +0100 From: rupert THURNER <[email protected]> To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] Wikimania Message-ID: <CAJs9aZ-SXfBhE3i9vB=4bryf09ikpjcmsvwbk607tzdowjr...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" hi, i find this a delicate topic in general, boiling down to two aspects at the end. first, value edits (article space, not talk page and meta edits), software contributions. when persons apply for positions in the wikiverse, edits are considered a nice to have - which is imo setting a bad example. second the technology that edit is easy highly influences contributions. mobile edit experience is by far not where it should be, for me it is unusable. given that africa is a mobile connected country it is no wonder that we have so little contributions. on a scholarship side, factor in the financial possibilities, and the cost of coming might not be to bad. if africans contribute and 20 apply, i would not find it wasted money to have them all come. i do not care about africa as a continent, or percentage of whatever. it is a personal, human factor. what counts is if persons from regions attend where the knowledge of the movement is not so high. let people mix up with experienced persons to discuss attitudes. but - they need to meet persons who edit otherwise it has more an effect of travel agency :) this also means that i consider it pointless if every year the same persons come. my mail does not mean i appreciate the style and tone of olaniyans mail though, there i am 100% with asaf, and rex. rupert On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:40 PM, Douglas Scott <[email protected]> wrote: > I think Rexford and Asaf raise some good points here. If we are serious > about Africa having a stronger presence at future Wikimanias we must > improve our efforts at increasing the number of editors from the continent > whist encouraging more editors to apply for scholarships with high quality > applications. It's a long road to travel that requires a lot of work but I > feel that the rewards in terms of edits from African sources and > representation within the broader community make it well worth it. > > Regards, > > Douglas. > On 11 Mar 2016 23:13, "Nkansah Rexford" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thank you Ellie for the short breakdown of the stats in here. Will be on >> standby for more of these stats to be put up on the wiki. >> >> I think things will be more clearer when all the stats are up. >> >> Thanks. >> On 11 Mar 2016 7:25 pm, "Ellie Young" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Isla, >>> >>> I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship >>> committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l >>> soon. >>> >>> 124 Scholarships were awarded. >>> >>> Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were >>> African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my >>> calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants. >>> >>> Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program. >>> >>> You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee >>> if you have ideas for changes to the program in the future? >>> >>> Ellie Young >>> WMF Events Manager >>> on behalf of the Scholarship Committee >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by >>>> the WMF, Africa got 4. >>>> >>>> FOUR. >>>> >>>> that is 0.02% of what was on offer. >>>> >>>> Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. BUT you couldn’t >>>> get closer to Africa than Italy, if you tried. >>>> >>>> That is just not acceptable. >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/african-wikimedians/attachments/20160312/2bb8fcad/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 20:33:01 +0000 From: Nkansah Rexford <[email protected]> To: Mailing list for African Wikimedians <[email protected]> Subject: [African Wikimedians] Wikimania Message-ID: <CAAh37tqvUy1ZKK6=+tadnvclrbmuvcoavpz725-md4dxz+x...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" second the technology that edit is easy highly influences contributions. mobile edit experience is by far not where it should be, for me it is unusable. given that africa is a mobile connected country it is no wonder that we have so little contributions. Is this to say that contributions from Africa are to some extent low because of Africa being mobile, and the mobile editing platform not being fully advanced yet? If that's your point, then I won't agree on that. At the moment, I personally find the mobile editing (both from the native apps and web app ) to be great. There's not much I would add to the current state without bloating up the small screen of a mobile to the stage where control buttons have taken over the screen estate. I don't do extensive editing on mobile, and I don't know anyone who makes extensive editing on mobile. I've always seen the mobile editing to be an added advantage, and not to replace the conventional desktop editing experience. On the go, you wanna fix a typo in an article, you wanna add a paragraph, that's how I see the mobile experience, and not as a reference/citation editing experience, or not for the advanced editing stuffs. I wouldn't blame the low edits from the 'mobile Africa' ( is that even a good thing?) on the fledgling Wikipedia mobile editing experience. Perhaps it boils down to a blame game. Without PC? "I would edit if I had a PC". No Internet? "I would edit if I had Internet." No smartphone? "I would edit if I had one." Give me all that and I'll say: "If only the internet was that fast, and phone and PC were that high performing, I would edit." Gimme combined power of all quantum processors in the world, and I'll still say: "If only my PC was a bit slower, it's too fast." My point? Something is always to be blamed; something always is the culprit, but never *me*! I'm never the problem! On 12 Mar 2016 8:58 am, "rupert THURNER" <[email protected]> wrote: > hi, > > i find this a delicate topic in general, boiling down to two aspects at > the end. first, value edits (article space, not talk page and meta edits), > software contributions. when persons apply for positions in the wikiverse, > edits are considered a nice to have - which is imo setting a bad > example. second the technology that edit is easy highly influences > contributions. mobile edit experience is by far not where it should be, for > me it is unusable. given that africa is a mobile connected country it is no > wonder that we have so little contributions. > > on a scholarship side, factor in the financial possibilities, and the cost > of coming might not be to bad. if africans contribute and 20 apply, i would > not find it wasted money to have them all come. i do not care about africa > as a continent, or percentage of whatever. it is a personal, human factor. > what counts is if persons from regions attend where the knowledge of the > movement is not so high. let people mix up with experienced persons to > discuss attitudes. but - they need to meet persons who edit otherwise it > has more an effect of travel agency :) this also means that i consider it > pointless if every year the same persons come. my mail does not mean i > appreciate the style and tone of olaniyans mail though, there i am 100% > with asaf, and rex. > > rupert > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:40 PM, Douglas Scott <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> I think Rexford and Asaf raise some good points here. If we are serious >> about Africa having a stronger presence at future Wikimanias we must >> improve our efforts at increasing the number of editors from the continent >> whist encouraging more editors to apply for scholarships with high quality >> applications. It's a long road to travel that requires a lot of work but I >> feel that the rewards in terms of edits from African sources and >> representation within the broader community make it well worth it. >> >> Regards, >> >> Douglas. >> On 11 Mar 2016 23:13, "Nkansah Rexford" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Ellie for the short breakdown of the stats in here. Will be on >>> standby for more of these stats to be put up on the wiki. >>> >>> I think things will be more clearer when all the stats are up. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> On 11 Mar 2016 7:25 pm, "Ellie Young" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Isla, >>>> >>>> I am in the process of putting up information from the scholarship >>>> committee onto the wiki and will respond to the other thread on wikimania-l >>>> soon. >>>> >>>> 124 Scholarships were awarded. >>>> >>>> Of the 400 scholarships that passed into Phase 2 of the review, 20 were >>>> African applicants passed Phase 2. 4 of those got scholarships, so by my >>>> calculations that's 20% of the eligible African applicants. >>>> >>>> Geographic regions are *not* the emphasis of the program. >>>> >>>> You might want to take this up directly with the Scholarship Committee >>>> if you have ideas for changes to the program in the future? >>>> >>>> Ellie Young >>>> WMF Events Manager >>>> on behalf of the Scholarship Committee >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 6:18 AM, Isla Haddow Flood < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Okay - so - of 170 potential full and partial scholarships offered by >>>>> the WMF, Africa got 4. >>>>> >>>>> FOUR. >>>>> >>>>> that is 0.02% of what was on offer. >>>>> >>>>> Mexico I could understand was difficult to access. 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