I NIMBY on datacenters, but i absolutely want them in everybody elses I think datacenters should be banned from bulk discount power rates unless they commit to generating their footprint in power within 5 years. Massive fines if they dont comply. Power consumption and us paying for its my only real gripe with them.
I always wondered how integrated a datacenter could get, theyre pumping water all over anyway, could that volume and heat exchange be used to generate something else, like can they pump in sea water and evaporate the discharge onto collectors to desalinate.... and bring down the cost of seasalt. Ive been reading about osmotic power generation and wonder if a circle of life couldnt be created around the datacenters. Never spent much time looking into it other than the evaporative collection would fail because it couldnt dissipate the heat to a degree the water would condense in a reasonable volume of collection space or some shit like that. I dont know how hot the discharge is either, like is it hot enough to run medical tool sterilization facilities? or warm enough to bring back bathouses. maybe put small ones in new york and have hot water taps for hot dog vendors Im heavy into AI and automation now. Seeing the trend of datacenter bans is really starting to concern me. We havent even gotten through the customer acquisition phase of the LLMs to see what the real token cost is going to be, so if theyre spending more and building less, my customers prices will shoot up and the services wont seem as attractive anymore. but then again im minimal AI automation centric and big on self hosted platforms, so maybe its a win for me when the stickers start shocking I went to a big cryptominer once, the exhaust heat was crazy, I cant imagine major datacenter energy discharge in person On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 6:59 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > Greenland has cooling. Oh, that might explain some things. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Dan P via AF > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2026 6:21 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Dan P <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Chuck getting it on in the FB groups :) Anti > Datacenter/AI > > > > Yeah waterless cooling is fine in DC’s only disadvantage is that it cost > more / uses a ton of power where using as much water as possible doesn’t > use as much power and water is cheap. But you cant beat bang for buck > evaporative cooling in dry areas. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *[email protected] > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2026 2:06 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Chuck getting it on in the FB groups :) Anti > Datacenter/AI > > > > I posted a query on the Eagle Mountain, Utah city page. There is where a > massive FB data center is. I had a hand in building that data center in > 2018 and 2018. > > > > I asked about the impact to the daily quality of life there. > > Crickets > > > > A city council person did write a very nice and long response showing all > the research they did prior to it getting built and the massive revenue > they receive from it. 100% positive effects. I have been told they use an > alcohol/glycol cooling system there so no water is consumed. > > > > Best Regards, > Chuck McCown > > McCown Technology Corporation > 8401 N Commerce Dr > Lake Point, Utah 84074 > 801-250-9503 Office > 435-830-4306 Cell > www.mccowntech.com > www.microtrench.pro > www.terabitnetworks.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Ken Hohhof < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2026 12:01 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Chuck getting it on in the FB groups :) Anti > Datacenter/AI > > > > I just drove past a Meta datacenter. Judging from the cars in the parking > lot, it must employ almost 10 people. > > Probably all security guards in case of anti-datacenter or anti-AI > terrorists. > > The place looks like an army base, if aliens abducted all the humans. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 27, 2026 1:50 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Chuck getting it on in the FB groups :) Anti > Datacenter/AI > > > > I still laugh every time someone bitches about data centers....on Facebook. > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2026 at 2:37 PM Dan P via AF <[email protected]> wrote: > > That is great, I have been watching the pitch forks come out for > datacenters, naturally we put up new signs and it says “Ogden datacenter” > on them now. Wish I could pull it as people have gone completely > insane. I was reading over a local FB ground and low and behold Chucks > message was in there: > > > > Data centers exist so you can post on Facebook, watch Netflix, order from > Amazon, use Doordash, book an airline ticket, pay a bill, check your dental > records, dial 911 and have them find your location, use TicTok, Instagram, > X, play online games, etc etc. The whole world is run by servers in data > centers. People fear surveillance activities, but Google, FB and Amazon > know 1000 x more about you than any surveillance center ever will. If you > are against data centers, throw away your phone, tablet, laptop, desktop, > smart thermostats. Get a TV aerial up on the roof and a land line phone > from the phone company if they will still do that. A typewriter and a roll > of stamps will complete your conversion. Otherwise stop bitching about data > centers as you are the reason they exist in the first place. > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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