The FAA story was littered with incorrect info but it's being corrected now
with Elon admitting he messed up. He's messed up quite a bit so far with
DOGE. They fire then rehire when they realize they fired the wrong people.
I hate how fast they're going. It's reckless and creates chaos. They need
to slow down, research where to cut things, then execute after their due
diligence.

Anyway, the Verizon contract that overhauls the FAA network is in progress.
None of the new network has been deployed yet as Elon initially stated. The
legacy network by L3harris is still running the FAA. The ideal solution
will be fiber where it's readily available with starlink as a backup. This
creates a very reliable network.

On Wed, Mar 5, 2025, 6:36 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

> Yes, that would be the logical and conventional conclusion, but in these
> times, who knows?
>
>
>
> I was keeping my eye on the Verizon contract to upgrade the FAA/ATC
> network with fiber.  News sites were stating the FAA and the embedded DOGE
> boys were going to cancel the Verizon contract and award it to Starlink
> instead.  Logic and convention would dictate there would be a procedure to
> cancel the Verizon contract, pay for work done, then go through a whole new
> specification and competitive bidding process.  If that was not followed
> and the contract was just handed to another vendor on a no-bid basis, then
> I would say all bets are off for anything else including BEAR.
>
>
>
> However, those news reports seemed to be based on rumors and assumptions
> and anonymous sources.  I was not ready to believe them.
>
>
>
> Now it is being reported that all parties are saying Starlink is working
> with L3Harris on a quick fix for the current outdated system and Verizon is
> cool with it.  Is this closer to the truth?  Is it putting a pretty face on
> an ugly story?  Who knows.  I hope it is, because the other version was
> kind of scary.  And honestly, I am willing to believe that fiber is the
> correct long term solution for an air traffic control network, now matter
> how much I am invested in wireless.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Tushar Patel
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 5, 2025 4:58 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BEAD Fiber projects gone?
>
>
>
> I agree.
>
> Tushar
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 5, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Tyson Burris <t...@franklinisp.net> wrote:
>
>  My argument would be that if they are going to open it up to technology
> neutral services, which includes Starlink, Cellular Hotspots, and Fixed
> unlicensed wireless to achieve the best outcome for the money then the
> whole process has to be restarted.
>
>
>
> Because as it stands right now, bidding was based on exclusion of those
> services as “underserved” which was half ass logic.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce
> Dr. Franklin, IN 46131  *
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> On Mar 5, 2025, at 16:46, tpa...@ecpi.com wrote:
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> 
>
> If the new language says that the state has to be “technology-neutral,”
> and also that the state has to select the lowest-cost projects, which I
> thought was selecting criteria, too. I would think more FWA projects will
> do well.
>
> We shall see.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tushar
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 5, 2025 3:25 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BEAD Fiber projects gone?
>
>
>
> Unless they find a way to strongarm the states to give it all to Elon, I’m
> not sure this is a huge change.  I would expect states to still prefer
> fiber if they got enough BEAD money to do it everywhere, or otherwise to
> lower the cost point at which they use FWA or satellite until they have
> enough money to go around.  Seems like this is the way things were going
> anyway.  I mean, if you’re a state and the feds gave you $1 billion to
> spend, wouldn’t you spend most of it on fiber except where fiber is really
> really difficult or expensive?  Unless there is pressure to get it done in
> 5 months instead of 5 years.
>
>
>
> I would be shocked, shocked if all (or even most) fiber projects were gone.
>
>
>
> What I’d worry more about is that the money goes to satellite in
> preference to FWA.  Seems like BEAD money to FWA would build
> infrastructure, while the way BEAD would subsidize satellite like Starlink
> would be to cover part of the monthly cost for X many years, in other words
> not a long term solution.  Even if they found a way to fund launching new
> satellites, they only last 5 years and have to be replaced.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *tpa...@ecpi.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 5, 2025 3:12 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] BEAD Fiber projects gone?
>
>
>
>
> https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/commerce-to-overhaul-internet-for-all-plan-expanding-starlink-funding-prospects-74664efc#comments_sector
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Thank you,
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> Tushar Patel
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