Each side of the line to ground I am guessing.  Or both sides to ground.   

From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2024 3:01 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RFT-V 190V Line Power distance

I built a spreadsheet based on the formulas in this EETimes article I ran 
across:
https://www.eetimes.com/line-powering-in-the-remote-dslam-world/
Initial results are that 100W at 3000m is possible, with 4x 24ga pairs or 2x 
22ga pairs.  


One thing in that article that made me do a double take was this:



How would the above be done?  Sounds awesome, but I can't wrap my head around 
it. 
Two pairs to two inputs on the device? 
One pair between the ungrounded terminals on a +190V and -190V power supply?  

The effective doubling of voltage would let you run that 100W at 3000m with one 
24ga pair.

-Adam



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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of ch...@go-mtc.com 
<ch...@go-mtc.com>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2024 1:46 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RFT-V 190V Line Power distance 

Twisted pair with pvc insulation is good for 300 volts. 

From: Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2024 1:40 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RFT-V 190V Line Power distance

There has to be some metric other than just watts. 190 volts at ~~ 1/2 amp gets 
you your 100 watts, but so does 190 amps at a 1/2 volt.



More volts means you can use smaller diameter wire, but more volts means you 
need more insulation.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 12/23/2024 10:20 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
  I'm looking at strand mounted OLT's.  One of the powering options is RFT-V 
which is a nominal 190VDC over twisted pair.  I have 0% familiarity with it.

  I found a white paper from Commscope saying that the max is 100W, and at 3000 
meters your 100W becomes 60W effective power due to voltage drop.  Is that a 
fair rule of thumb?

  Hey Chuck, didn't you have an excel calculator for this?





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