I just did the sonar one today.  Took a whole of about 5 minutes to create the file and get the SVG Files back.   What's not clear in the sonar directions is that you don't have to fill in all fields.  So like if you don't have contracts or data overages, just leave those fields blank.  Remember that Excel will helpfully delete your leading zero's out of your FRN id you don't delimit the field.

On 10/3/2024 3:35 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

We don’t use Sonar but I tried their free-for-anyone version and maybe I was just being stupid but I got frustrated with it.  I didn’t try submitting a .csv file though.  I also tried the one from Market Broadband and got frustrated with that one too.

There’s also this:

https://bblmaker.com/

*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Thursday, October 3, 2024 3:14 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Broadband Facts labels

Sonar has a free for anyone tool.

BITAG also has some information:

https://www.bitag.org/BITAG-BB-Labels.pdf



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*From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, October 3, 2024 3:02:36 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Broadband Facts labels

powercode just added it, but that 2 years of idled development to blast into the last few months.

Im checking that market broadband thing out in the interim

we have different non speed based tiers, but only really advertise 1 speed and kick them up to faster when they meet certain criteria, but it changes the rate plan name when we do.

fucking fed bullies and dumb trends

On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 2:54 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

    *nods* but I think you're also supposed to make the labels
    available on portals, invoices, etc.



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    *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <khoh...@kwom.com>
    *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
    *Sent: *Thursday, October 3, 2024 2:47:04 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Broadband Facts labels

    It’s actually easiest to implement on your website if you don’t
    have multiple speed tiers, or just 2 or 3.

    I kind of like how Amplex did it, where you click on Broadband
    Facts below the speed tier and it expands to the full label.

    https://amplex.net/residential-wireless

    T-Mobile does something similar.

    https://www.t-mobile.com/home-internet/plans

    My web design skills and tools are frozen in time around 2005, so
    such fancy stuff is beyond my capabilities.  I think I once did a
    FAQ page where you clicked on the Q, and the A would expand.  So
    theoretically if my life depended on it, I could probably code
    it.  Not elegantly however.  I only have HTML, CSS and Adobe
    GoLive in my toolbox.  Can I just ask ChatGPT to do it?

    *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
    *Sent:* Thursday, October 3, 2024 2:15 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Broadband Facts labels

    Ask your BSS\OSS system how they're handling it.



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    *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
    *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
    *Sent: *Thursday, October 3, 2024 2:04:26 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Broadband Facts labels

    fudge

    On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 11:55 AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

        AFAIK, <100,000 subs got an extra 6 months until 10/10/24 but
        not exempt.

        *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
        *Sent:* Thursday, October 3, 2024 11:38 AM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Broadband Facts labels

        whats the deadline all about? I thought us little guys still
        were exempt

        On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 9:24 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
        wrote:

            Ours is just waiting our new web site launch.



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            *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <khoh...@kwom.com>
            *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
            *Sent: *Tuesday, October 1, 2024 3:17:22 PM
            *Subject: *[AFMUG] Broadband Facts labels

            I thought I was cutting it close to the Oct. 10 deadline,
            but doing a spot check, it seems that a bunch of WISPs and
            FISPs a lot bigger than me are really waiting until the
            last minute.

            Or maybe they don’t believe it needs to be on their
            website, or not until you submit your information and
            start the ordering process.  I don’t know.

            Opinions? Not about the labels, yeah they’re stupid, I
            don’t think customers care.  But about whether small and
            medium size ISPs are planning on implementing them.


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