As far as Vivant goes,  some local ISP that colo’s in our dc said they went 
poof quickly when the board saw big money in a quick sale of the spectrum they 
had.

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
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Combination of government and private equity money.  Sound familiar?

One of the few cases where a RUS loan went very bad.  USDA and Chase private 
equity left holding the bag.  Google search comes up with Denver Post articles, 
one quoting a vendor surprised at how nicely appointed the HQ was for a startup.

Announced a stalking horse bidder but no real bidder came forward.

Private equity investment was a condition for getting the RUS money, you’d 
think they would take the hit and the govt loan would be paid back but 
apparently they both got snookered.

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Sounds like vivant,  they left so much crap up

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and then I think they just abandoned their gear in place.


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Yes, thank you.  Openrange is the name I was trying to remember.

Any idea what happened with them?  I seem to remember they shut down suddenly 
and left customers without service.  I don’t remember them getting bought out.

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Colin Stanners
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I don't follow what happens down there in the USA much but was it Openrange?


On Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 10:28 a.m. Ken Hohhof 
<khoh...@kwom.com<mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> wrote:
I remember around the time JAB/Rise was taking off there was a flurry of other 
WISPs that took off and then crashed and burned rather suddenly.  I think at 
least one of them used WiMAX equipment that was somewhat popular with apartment 
dwellers because they had indoor modems.  I also seem to remember equipment 
vendors left holding the bag, and surplus equipment showing up on eBay.  I 
think one of them approached us about M&A but they were offering stock claiming 
that was better than cash because it would go up in value (yeah, right).

Anyone remember the names of these companies, I’m drawing a blank.  Also any 
recollection of what went wrong and lessons learned that might apply to the 
current rush to deploy broadand.
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