Fire stations here are failing.  They can't staff them.  Townships can't
fund them so they're paying cities much higher rates per call.

On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 7:01 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

> Everything’s political now, of course.
>
>
>
> But he does have a point when he says “Government-owned broadband networks
> cost millions of dollars and divert essential funding away from services
> that really matter to the public — services such as police and fire, roads,
> water and sewer.”
>
>
>
> In the past, the government has undertaken vast programs at taxpayer
> expense like rural electrification, the interstate highway system, the
> space program.  Now apparently high speed Internet is the thing of the
> moment that takes precedence over all the other broken things that we might
> wish government to fix.  I sometimes wonder why Internet?  Maybe because it
> seems easy and gives people the power to hand out billions of dollars.
> Could they cure cancer or get lead out of drinking water or fix all the
> deteriorating bridges with something like a BEAD program?
>
>
>
> Maybe they think broadband and AI and neural implants will lead to a
> future where everyone is plugged into the network and doesn’t need any of
> those other things.  Maybe we’ll all be heads in jars like in Futurama.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2024 5:38 PM
> *To:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>; AnimalFarm Microwave
> Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Cc:* ch...@go-mtc.com; John Brewer <n7...@me.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Govt funded fiber - Utopia
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>
> I am surprised they have never broke even.
>
>
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>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
>
> *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2024 4:02 PM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Cc:* John Brewer ; ch...@go-mtc.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Govt funded fiber - Utopia
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>
> Article:
> https://www.deseret.com/opinion/2024/04/19/government-internet-service-bad-for-taxpayers/
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>
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 4:59 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
> By John Dougall
>
> For the Deseret News
>
> Most Utahns probably agree that government should stick to essential
> government services and stay out of enterprises that are better performed
> by
> the private sector.
>
> Yet, across the country and right here in Utah, more and more governments
> are building government-owned internet networks, despite numerous
> private-sector providers being available.
>
> The number of government-owned networks is increasing by the day, and
> taxpayers, not users, are often footing the bill. Government-owned
> broadband
> networks cost millions of dollars and divert essential funding away from
> services that really matter to the public — services such as police and
> fire, roads, water and sewer.
>
> Two unfortunate examples of government-owned broadband networks right here
> in Utah are iProvo and UTOPIA.
>
> In 2004, Provo launched iProvo to provide broadband internet services to
> homes and business. Provo reportedly bonded for $36.5 million to bring
> service to every home in the city and wrote off $5.4 million that the
> city’s
> telecommunications fund owed the Energy Department’s reserve fund to
> finance
> the costly deployment. After struggling to make the network viable, iProvo
> was sold in 2008. But its buyer failed to fulfill the terms of the sale,
> and
> iProvo reverted back to the city. In 2013, in a desperate attempt to free
> itself of the failed venture, the city ultimately sold iProvo to Google
> for
> $1.
>
> Similarly, UTOPIA (Utah Telecommunications Open Infrastructure Agency) was
> launched to provide broadband internet services to a consortium of cities.
> But UTOPIA has failed to fulfill its promises for more than two decades
> now.
> The project, which started in 2002, was projected to be finished in three
> to
> four years. Fast forward to today, and it is still incomplete. Not only is
> UTOPIA incomplete, but the project has racked up $300 million worth of
> debt.
> And despite iProvo’s example of failure, UTOPIA continues to expand.
>
> For years, UTOPIA consistently lost money, expecting taxpayers to cover
> those losses. In addition to this, the government-owned network continues
> to
> expand and pull other cities into this trap. What’s more egregious is that
> UTOPIA misrepresented its performance as it pitched cities on buying into
> the expansion fever. For example, UTOPIA once claimed the network had “no
> cost to taxpayers since 2009.” This statement was patently inaccurate.
>
> As your watchdog, I help you to hold your government accountable. My
> office
> investigated this and other claims, then we wrote a letter identifying
> these
> inaccurate statements. We instructed UTOPIA to do the following:
>
> •Discard or destroy marketing materials with misleading statements.
>
> • Ensure future communications more accurately reflect the dependence on
> taxpayer support.
>
> •Take steps to remedy the misrepresentations regarding the lack of
> taxpayer
> support to any individual or entity that received the inaccurate
> information.
>
> UTOPIA’s shortcomings do not stop there, however. Rather than providing
> internet access to the more than 40,000 homes and small businesses that
> lack
> internet access today, UTOPIA, like other government-owned networks,
> builds
> redundant networks that compete with existing private providers, many who
> are also regulated by the cities in which they operate.
>
> Unfortunately, iProvo and UTOPIA are no different from other
> government-owned fiber networks across the country, which fail financially
> about 90% of the time.
>
> When taxpayer money is being diverted from critical services into pet
> broadband projects, that money is not going where it is needed most.
> Taxpayers expect government to maintain roads, provide safe drinking water
> and keep their communities safe. Money spent propping up broadband
> services
> costs taxpayers money, encumbered by decades of debt, and deprives them of
> important and sufficient government services they want and deserve. Plus,
> higher taxes burden families, many of whom are struggling today just to
> provide for themselves.
>
> Government-owned broadband has done enough harm to taxpayers. iProvo and
> UTOPIA should be seen as an example for policymakers of what to avoid.
> Public officials across the country, and especially here in Utah, should
> resist the appealing allure of expanding or deploying government-owned
> networks, which allure has been shown to be deceptive, and ultimately
> destructive, to taxpayers.
>
> John Dougall is the Utah State Auditor and is a candidate for Utah’s 3rd
> congressional district.
>
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