That is correct. Sakid
-----Original Message----- From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 5:01 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: EPMP 3000 Vs 4500 Thanks for the Reply Sakid, So on an 80mhz channel, 4500AP to 4X SM will do around 700-800mb, so a 20mhz channel (realistically what is available in our area due to congestion) should be around 150-200mb/s? Basically what we see on PTP Force425 links, just in multipoint? Nate On 3/29/2024 3:44 PM, Sakid Ahmed via AF wrote: > Responding to Nate's original thread - please see inline: > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 3:32 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 3000 Vs 4500 > > https://comm/ > unity.cambiumnetworks.com%2Ft%2Fepmp4500-ap-8x8-backwards-compatibilit > y%2F96599&data=05%7C02%7Csakid.ahmed%40cambiumnetworks.com%7C149998cb7 > 2af4c81211508dc503bf25e%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C0%7C0%7C6 > 38473465603272433%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoi > V2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=%2BrJhSSSaNY > nYe7nZlGq5BkFKGHadaVWVwt8Oqlli6h8%3D&reserved=0 > if that helps > > sounds like it's partly an 802.11ac to 802.11ax compatibility issue > > I also seem to remember someone explaining to me that the 4500 was > designed as 8x8 to get maximum sector capacity with a limited channel > width, whereas the 4600 is aimed more toward using wide channels in 6 > GHz to get the capacity. From that perspective, 4600 would also be > better for single customer throughput, but again assuming you are > using 6 GHz. (or somehow have 80 MHz of clear 5 GHz spectrum) > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Nate Burke > Sent: Friday, March 29, 2024 9:32 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: [AFMUG] EPMP 3000 Vs 4500 > > I was wondering if anyone has some real world results from changing > EPMP3000 to EPMP 4500. I'm starting to get equipment for our site builds > this summer, and am looking at the price difference between 3000 vs 4500 > trying to decide which route to go. I don't do high density deployments, so > maxing out capacity on a sector is not a concern. Throughput to the > Subscriber is more important. Can I get higher throughput to individual > Subscribers with 4500 than I can with 3000?[SA] Yes, you can get higher > throughput to an individual subscriber in the ePMP4X series vs the e3K SM > series. This is partly due to support of 1024 QAM, far more efficient air > protocol and various other changes that can push a 4X SM to the tune of > 700~800Mbps. Having said that, the e3K AP is the most mature it has ever been > in terms of all the fixes, performance improvements over the years. The SMs > at 80MHz is still pushing close to 500Mbps. As Ken mentioned earlier, the 4K > story is about AP & SM capacity with support of backwards compatibility to > 11AC SMs but the e3K on its own is compelling for what you are looking for. Compatibility between 4500 and F300SM is very close to coming out but don't expect the 300SM to have any improvements in tput. Unfortunately, we dropped 11n support on the 4500. It was just too much to test and cover. > [SA] Now the best part - e3K Aps can be had super cheap in the NA region. I > want to say in the $300 range and I believe RF-E is doing aggressive promos > on horns as well. 4X4 MUMIMO horns that can support split sector mode. > > Would it need to be a 4500AP and 4500SM, or would there be a noticeable > throughput increase from a 4500AP to a F300 SM (Future Support)? I'm > guessing my EPMP1000 SM's are EOL from talking to a 4500AP if I wanted to > upgrade a site. > > I'm guessing this was all covered at sessions during the WISP show, but > unfortunately I couldn't attend. > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.af/ > mug.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Faf_af.afmug.com&data=05%7C02%7Csakid.ah > med%40cambiumnetworks.com%7C149998cb72af4c81211508dc503bf25e%7C0e263e3 > 6340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C0%7C0%7C638473465603280115%7CUnknown%7CTWF > pbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6M > n0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=vfKvPVyFks%2BWYCNNkweTHw881tK1IcUeRWJOSiwKWPM > %3D&reserved=0 > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.af/ > mug.com%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Faf_af.afmug.com&data=05%7C02%7Csakid.ah > med%40cambiumnetworks.com%7C149998cb72af4c81211508dc503bf25e%7C0e263e3 > 6340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C0%7C0%7C638473465603286990%7CUnknown%7CTWF > pbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6M > n0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=TFSnPOcmt0kjRkgHzFR369aaVtlNvQL8xW4swiruvSE%3 > D&reserved=0 > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
