Thanks for the input everyone.

If I'm considering used Juniper, is there any reason to not consider used
Cisco as well?  Seems like a pretty similar situation.

On Thu, Jan 11, 2024 at 3:37 PM Jesse DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
wrote:

> Another option. Check out OcNOS from IP Infusion. CLI is almost identical
> to Cisco and it's a great value. OcNOS runs on white label boxes so you can
> choose the hardware platform that fits your needs (what I've ordered so far
> comes with OcNOS pre-installed). Lots of hardware choices from Edgecore and
> UfiSpace. IP Infusion supports others, too. OcNOS is a full featured
> carrier-class routing/switching OS and includes full BNG, MPLS, L3/L2VPN
> suite, etc. A Ufispace S9510-28DC-9N0A with DC power and OcNOS MPLS license
> is about $8K and is comparable to the Juniper MX204 in terms of features,
> capacity and port count, including full route tables if used at the border.
> On the low-end, the Ufispace 9502-16MT with MPLS license and DC power is
> about $2200 and has all the same capabilities/features as the bigger box,
> just less capacity and port count. Great platform. I suppose technically
> the white label boxes are L3 switches in so much as the ASIC that runs it a
> switch chip at its hard, but all routing, label switching, and L2 switching
> (data plane) takes place in the ASIC. Control plane is handled by the CPU.
> Worth a look. We have OcNOS interoperating with Juniper, Mikrotik and
> NetElastic on OSPF/MPLS/VPLS.
>
> On 1/11/24 11:16 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Arista goes both ways.  We have a number of Arista L3 switches, and also a
> big modular chassis thing comparable to a Juniper MX.
>
> Full routes just depends on the model.  Some of them can’t do it.
>
>
>
> We started buying Arista a couple of years ago when Juniper changed their
> pricing model.  Good products.  CLI almost identical to Cisco, so it’s old
> hat.  I have no complaints with Arista.
>
>
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf
> Of *Daniel Pautz via AF
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 11, 2024 11:00 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Cc:* Daniel Pautz <d...@webnx.com> <d...@webnx.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper
>
>
>
> Is it really considered a router or just high end switch? Eg  does it take
> full multi tables, etc?  what model?     I have always considered playing
> with some Arista’s.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Zach Underwood
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2024 8:00 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper
>
>
>
> While not juniper and with no support we have done very well with used
> Arista. We got 12x 100gb +24 x40gb router that can do bgp for under 10k
> eaxh.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2024, 9:54 PM Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
> Is this worth looking at or is it too problematic from a support / update
> perspective? New Juniper is not in my budget.
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