If you have enough capacity in the compressor and hose each orifice gets 150 
psi.
PSI is like voltage.  

The venturi guy says to regulate it to 72 psi if you want to optimize it.  But 
you could just put a throttle valve and gauge on it too.  Redneck pressure 
regulator.  

Best Regards,
Chuck McCown

McCown Technology Corporation 
8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503 Office
435-830-4306 Cell
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench.pro
www.terabitnetworks.com

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 11:45 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Air vac

I dont know the math behind air pressure, but if I split the 150psi into two, 
then does each orifice get 75psi?

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 9:54 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

  Spoke to a venturi engineer just now.  He says 72 psi is the magic number.  
It has something to do with atmospheric air pressure and the density of the 
air.  I presume that number would change with altitude.  



  From: Steve Jones 
  Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 9:34 AM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Air vac

  I use an auger to dig them, vac to clear them. Same thing with the 
airspade/airvac combo.  I dont do posts less than 48 inches. Whats really 
pushing this is the last project was installing 2 inch duct for the power 
company, the old primaries were failed concentric, as it turns out the stuff is 
dangerous, it faults on its own, jabbing shovels and post hole diggers at it is 
a recipe for disaster and water is its mortal enemy. Im chasing more contracts 
with that power company to replace more of that concentric. Im not gonna get 
the cutting power of water, but ill have dry spoils to put back in the hole. 

  I wish I hadnt done all the drugs, id be able to understand the maths on 
this, im wondering if I cant split the input and double the lift with two 
venturis

  On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 9:23 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

    So you dug post holes with a shop vac?  Is it sandy where you are?  I feel 
like I hit about 10,000 rocks per post hole.  Many too big for a vac hose, and 
many just big enough to clog it.

    I might have to try it anyway.



    From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
    Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2023 6:12 PM
    To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Air vac



    I'm having better luck with the prototype than a shop vac already, just 
trying to improve the lift. Toting a generator isnt really an option. 

    I also just have a shop vac hose, if theres moisture the dirt collects on 
the sides with a shop vac and loses lift. That's how I've always dug post holes.

    On Sun, May 21, 2023, 3:53 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

      I think you would have better luck with a strong shop vac and a 30 gallon 
drum.  I have seen guys do that and it worked OK.  Air powered vacuum producers 
work but I don’t know how well.  Sometimes they are called eductors or 
ejectors.  



      Take a look at this one:

      
https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/2-in-line-vac-only-aluminum?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=CjwKCAjwgqejBhBAEiwAuWHioM68tuz0PVLcvHFy4CRspRtvhy5gEQQryMrUkOoNv4MVeUTRSWTkvxoCrv8QAvD_BwE



      Best Regards,
      Chuck McCown

      McCown Technology Corporation 
      8401 N Commerce Dr
      Lake Point, Utah 84074
      801-250-9503 Office
      435-830-4306 Cell
      www.mccowntech.com
      www.microtrench.pro
      www.terabitnetworks.com



      From: Steve Jones 

      Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2023 11:56 AM

      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

      Subject: [AFMUG] Air vac



      I need advice from you nerds. 

      I'm a broke joke, so hydrovac isnt in my budget. Besides, I want dry 
spoils to put back in the hole.

      This revision works for venturi. I have multiple size reducer but right 
now I'm just doing 3/4 to to inch. The 3/4 to 1 then 1 to half back to 1.5 for 
the venturi side seemed to have the best lift, but the hardware store didnt 
have everything, so it's all in 2 inch right now 

      I'll dump to a 2000lb peanut sack if I can find one, but for now I'll 
just use a 30 gallon drum and dump on the mega movers.



      This is for use in conjunction with the airspade I did have some coin to 
get.



      Venturi math gets complicated and I'm full retard so I need to find he 
best ways to increase negative pressure and where to drill the ports.



      I also wonder if theres an option to recapture the exhaust into the 
airspade.



      I need you nerds to go full geek.



      If I can get valves correct I'll have the local machinist make me a 
couple that are pressure rated.



      This is to mimic the airvac I also cant afford.



      This proof of concept has the lift to clear potholes and handholes,  but 
I need to clean it up and get more efficiency. 

      A side discovery is that this setup is perfect for blowing straw and seed 
with glue


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