Or compromise and say you are only allowed 1 ear? I don't know how people work with earbuds in an environment like that. I mean a painter, drywaller that sort of thing they'd just play a radio on construction sites. I'd feel unsafe with earbuds in. How people work with them in make me think they have a death wish.
On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 5:15 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hearing protection, or open ears in manufacturing. Even with hearing > protection, you will hear the odd noise in the hum. noise cancelling is bad > juju because its only injecting more energy. People who demand shit like > earbuds also dont comprehend why they can watch cat videos on the machine. > > Fuck them all anyway. your house, your rules. you should go find him on > the street and wait til hes mowing with them on, come up behind him and > push his ass under the mower, while hes bleeding to death, ask him what he > might have done different had he heard you coming. Theres no reason not to > also make this a teachable moment. He may argue about the mower being loud > and he wouldnt have heard you anyway, so in that case it may just be better > to wait til hes swinging in a hammock with his ear buds in and shiv him in > the neck > > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 4:18 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > >> If you can't hear ambient noise it's an issue. >> >> Safety violation. >> >> My take: >> >> If it's a loud area, then you need hearing protection. Note that most >> earbuds don't isolate that much, as such if you're even moderately close to >> the osha hearing protection levels then you can exceed them by permitting >> earbud use. Hearing outside noise is not nearly as important here as >> ensuring that you don't exceed dB levels. >> >> In quieter areas, then you have the need to hear ambient noise. >> Depending on the area and whether you feel that being aware of the >> direction of the noise is important, having a one earbud policy is often >> OK. >> >> Or you can demand use of something like: >> >> https://amp.earplugstore.com/saf-t-ear-bluetooth-dual-safety-earbuds.html >> >> From an enforcement perspective, a no earbud at all policy is easiest. >> >> On Fri, May 12, 2023, 1:00 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I warned an employee wearing noise cancelling earphones that they were a >>> safety hazard yesterday. Today I noticed he had them on again, I pointed >>> to his ear. He went off on me, complaining that everyone else had >>> earbuds. I told him that many times I started talking to him and he either >>> acted like he was not hearing anything or he chose to ignore me. Yadda y >>> adda, yadda. He quit a few minutes later. Good worker but lousy >>> attitude. 43 years old and had worked about 20 different places. >>> >>> So I adopted an open ears policy. If I am the asshole, that is fine. I >>> am a boomer and proud of it. >>> >>> Whadya y’all think? >>> >>> >>> >>> *Should Employees Be Allowed to Wear Earbuds?* >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> Currently, the Occupational Health and Safety Administration (OSHA) does >>> not have guidelines on earbud use in the workplace. However, OSHA has >>> issued recommendations regarding earbud use while on the job. Of course, >>> wearing earbuds in some work environments poses more of a threat than in >>> others. >>> >>> Earbud Dangers >>> >>> The dangers of wearing earbuds while on the job are similar to >>> non-employment use of these devices. People wearing earbuds simply cannot >>> hear emergency signals, but it goes beyond that. Overall, earbuds may pose >>> a safety hazard because the employee is less cognizant of their >>> surroundings and is not paying attention to their safety. >>> >>> No Earbuds Allowed >>> >>> OSHA urges employers to forbidTop of Form >>> >>> Bottom of Form >>> >>> the use of earbuds when workers are operating any sort of heavy >>> equipment. Anyone working on a manufacturing or construction site where >>> heavy equipment is used should not have earbuds, headphones, or similar >>> devices on their heads. For example, even if the forklift operator is not >>> wearing earbuds, a fellow employee in the vicinity using these devices >>> could end up getting hit if they cannot hear the machine. Along with >>> earbuds, the same warnings hold true for smartphones. Manufacturing >>> machinery such as milling machines emit noises that indicate problem >>> conditions or unsafe conditions. Operators of machines need to be able >>> to hear what is going on with the machine. >>> >>> Other Earbud Risks >>> >>> In most manufacturing industries, various energy-related hazards exist. >>> These may include chemical, electrical, or fire hazards. Failure to hear a >>> warning device due to earbud use not only puts that employee at risk if >>> they cannot hear warnings from coworkers but may be at risk as earbuds also >>> affect evacuations or the realization that equipment is not functioning >>> properly. For maximum safety, no employee in a manufacturing setting should >>> wear earbuds, even if they are not in an area of heavy equipment use. That >>> includes those working in warehouses. 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