A modern x86 CPU and ROS v6 could do a full table in about 30 seconds (or 
less). On ROS v7, it should be even less. 




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From: dmmoff...@gmail.com 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 10:44:37 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question 

We have a Juniper MX10008 which is supposed to crunch a full table in about 
30 seconds, but that's a half million dollar router. 

If you're doing it on a general purpose CPU I think 10-15 minutes doesn't 
sound weird. 

Something I've been meaning to try in the lab was having a static default 
route with distance 255. The hope would be traffic falls back to that when 
we haven't received a better route yet. Maybe I'd have two or three of 
those default routes with a qualified-next-hop so they're only active if the 
upstream connection is up. I'd adjust Juniper's protocol preference level 
so it'll prefer a BGP route if one exists and otherwise use the static 
default route. The hope would be while I'm waiting 30 seconds to receive 
routes that traffic still moves anyway. I haven't actually tried this 
experiment yet, but I think in principal it should work. There might be a 
Mikrotik equivalent way. 

-Adam 



-----Original Message----- 
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies 
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 11:19 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question 

Dennis, 

Using mikrotik routers. 

Two MaxxWave x86 i5 8 core 10 years old v6.47.9 

One CCR1072 v6.47.9 

Yes taking full tables. 

Tried BFD while back. Didn't seem that my upstream was supporting it. 
Never established a session. 

Thinking I may need to start looking at new hardware and v7. But before I 
go that route, what should I expect if I do get 3 brand new CCR2116-12G-4S+ 
running v7. 


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Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com 

Myakka Communications 
www.Myakka.com 

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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:08:45 AM, you wrote: 

DB> Really depends on a lot of things. 

DB> 1.What router are you using? 
DB> 2. Are you taking full tables from all of your upstreams? 
DB> 3. Are you not using BFD ? 
DB> 4. What version of RouterOS are you using? 

DB> V7 will be faster, 2216 will be faster than a 1036, your hold time is 
kinda long.. 


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DB> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka 
DB> Technologies 
DB> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:48 AM 
DB> To: af@af.afmug.com 
DB> Subject: [AFMUG] BGP Question 

DB> We have two circuits coming into our NOC. We peer with 3 different 
providers on each circuit. If a circuit fails, BGP will do it's magic and 
traffic will start flowing though the surviving circuit. 

DB> However, we seemed to get about 5 - 10 minutes of unstable Internet 
while this is happening. Is this normal? If not, what can I do to speed up 
the process? Is it a function of my routers having to rebuild routes? Will 
new faster routers help? Is it a function of timers? Keep-Alive is 30s and 
hold is at 90s. Should I investigate BFD? 

DB> How fast could I expect to get this fail-over to work under best 
conditions? 

DB> Thanks, 
DB> Mark mailto:m...@mailmt.com 

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