I imagine the worst venue for this is if you were teaching college. I think I
would just use their names. I would prefer to say Mr Howard and Mr Christian
but I am certain that is stepping in a pile of poo too. Mr and Ms are possibly
verboten now? I am wholly out of it when it comes to these things.
From: James Howard
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 3:27 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns
Seems like it would be much simpler to just refer to everyone the same way. If
you’re talking about someone who isn’t around you can just say “that idiot”
when referring to him/her/it/he/she and “those idiots” instead of they/them.
Much cleaner that way.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 4:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns
I heard an admittedly right wing commenter describe it this way..
You rarely use a gendered pronoun when talking to someone. You use their
name or "you". You only use the gendered pronouns when they aren't around.
So people asking you to use their preferred pronoun are asking you to change
the way you refer to them when they aren't even around.
Now, there are some people who I've met that use the "they" pronoun and I will
say that neither of the gendered pronouns really apply to them and "they" is
much more appropriate.
It's the people who are obviously a specific gender and dress and behave like
that gender that demand you refer to them using the opposite pronouns that
drive me nuts.
On Thu, Oct 6, 2022, 12:11 PM Carl Peterson <cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote:
I don't really care what gender you want to be, or even no gender but I'm
never saying "they is" I will just refer to them by their name. Sam is going
to the store.
On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 12:56 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
Phew. Glad I'm exempted.
bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 10/6/2022 10:53 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
BTW, boomers get a pass on all this complaining....
From: Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 11:51 AM
To: Darin Steffl ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns
Just a way to classify the woke vs the unwoke.
Forcing a weird and unnatural change in language.
They/them/theirs are all plural. Third person plural. Adds confusion.
Some languages do not genderize pronouns. Everyone is it or its.
But here you would offend someone by calling them it.
From: Darin Steffl
Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2022 11:23 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns
Why does this bother you? It's just an email signature.
I don't list my pronouns anywhere, and have no desire to, but I'm
certainly not offended or angered when I see someone list them in their email.
Live and let live
On Thu, Oct 6, 2022 at 10:16 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
wrote:
Got my first email where the sender listed their pronouns.
It was from the clerk of the Utah court of appeals.
She/Her/Hers
I hope this does not become a thing.
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