I was thinking some kind of MetroE solution where I'd have 100G\400G at the 
core and drop 1G\10G off at each site. 




I've seen the 10x10 stuff and it usually seems like a PtP product. 


I suppose if it does let me add\drop 10G channels, I could just passive WDM it 
and aggregate at fewer places. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Trey Scarborough" <t...@3dsc.co> 
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2022 4:15:51 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile Backhaul 


If your looking for a L1 DWDM to drop at the site then ekinops has a 10x10 100G 
that can drop individual 10Gs at a site. I haven't seen any deployments for 
mobile carriers, but I have been told they have. 



Most I have done to this point has been 100G rings using MPLS/EVPN. Hardware is 
typically using Juniper ACX 710, Nokia 7250 IXR-E, or Cisco NCS 540. These are 
using 40 or 80K bidi optics, but in some instances PAM4 and hopefully soon 
single channel dwdm modules that don't require outside amplification. I have 
not found any that you can really use a true passive system yet, but hopefully 
will be testing some soon. I have deployed a couple using 1310/1550 splitters 
and ran DWDM on top of a 1310 100G channel using 40/80K sfp28s. 


Trey 



On 7/19/22 10:53 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



I'm looking for referrals to what you've worked with regarding mobile backhaul 
services. 


We've poked around at a few vendors and it seems like it's common to have 
products on either side of what I'm looking for. It appears common to offer: 


1) Just a basic 10x 10G -> 1x 100G muxponder. It seems silly to have a rack 
full of muxponders at the CO. 
2) Complicated any color to any color ROADM and 25g -> 400G aggregation DWDM 
systems that don't go down to the speeds the mobile operator would want. 




It doesn't seem like people have something that offers 1x or 2x 10G with 2x 
100G for east\west routing in a hardened, small form factor. Awesome if those 
100G were tunable, so I could plumb them into a passive wave system. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 








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