On Jun 7, 2022, at 11:08 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
wrote:
Maybe Tesla's new Optimus robot can help in future active shooter
situations. Send it in instead of scared humans and let it disable
the bad guy.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 9:40 AM Andy Trimmell
<atrimm...@precisionds.com> wrote:
I liked when the conversation started with people adding in some
ways to possibly resolve things. Ideas are great. Pointing
fingers is divisive.
*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 07, 2022 10:28 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
After republicans take office the police, firefighters, libraries
and schools get defunded/reduced, I'm on a local fireboard,
experinced it happen several times. Don't complain to me about
who's doing the defunding.
On 6/6/22 11:05, Steve Jones wrote:
There has to be a decision made on what we want from police.
You cant demand they shoot white shooters, but gently caress
any other ethnicity.
You cant demand police be demilitarized at the same time you
demand they be ready to engage a heavily armed operator at a
split second notice
you cant demand police protect schools at all times while
simultaneously eliminating 50 percent of the school resource
officers.
You cant demand the school resource officers be a soft
presence while you also want them shooting perps in the face.
You cant do any of this at all while also defunding the police.
Military is ready because theyre always ready, police are
never ready because theyre always in sensitivty classes, or
being arrested for doing their job because the media said so.
Firefightrs are no more capable of handling these situations
than police, theyre all people
Theres also insurability. Scene safety if paramount in all
Emergency services. Firefighters dont run into active
petrochemical fires the same as they would run into a
residential structure fire. There is a line in which the
insurance companies (and taxpayers) will not tolerate the
risk. When monday morning quarterbacking gives way to tuesday
morning reality, the demands will seem much less realistic
I say we just burn it all. pick any longitudinal point and
light her up. May only the strongest and fastest survive
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:51 PM castarritt
<castarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
We've neutered the police so effectively they can't do
the job anymore. We need terminator robots.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:49 PM Chuck McCown via AF
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
I have been shot at, but never been in combat. I
don’t carry a weapon because I don’t want that
option. That option is one of the initial starting
conditions of a higher order ordinary differential
equation.
I prefer a linear equation.
If a firefighter is armored such that they can
probably survive a gunshot, that would steer their
thinking toward rescue over taking out the shooter.
Let the cops do that.
*From:*Jason McKemie
*Sent:*Monday, June 6, 2022 11:09 AM
*To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
True, if they're properly trained and doing their job
it would be more effective.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Robert
<i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
There was also the shooting down in the south,
where they had a school "police" officer who
stood back and did nothing. That's not
necessarily a solution either.
On 6/6/22 9:58 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
Seems like we should just be giving
additional funding to police departments so
that they can have a regular presence at schools.
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:08 AM Chuck McCown
via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
I may regret posting this but I had a
thought.
How about we let the fire department
handle active shooters at schools.
They know how to get there fast. They
are ready to go at an instants notice.
They know how to breach any building and
rescue survivors.
They have heavy protective gear on, just
add a layer of kevlar.
Or give them extra/different gear they
can don on the way to the incident.
They sure as hell don’t stand around
outside discussing jurisdiction and
strategy.
They care more about rescue than they do
about their own lives.
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