I prefer the terms logical and reasonable.
On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 4:59 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:
> So, in other words boring and respectful?
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 29, 2022 3:29 PM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>
>
> David Brooks is merely a conservative; not an ultra wright-wing-nut.
>
> And Jonathan Capehart is merely a liberal; not an ultra left-wing-nut.
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> bp
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> On 5/29/2022 1:31 PM, Chuck Macenski wrote:
>
> PBS NewsHour, Fridays, Brooks and Capehart.
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 2:02 PM CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I vaguely remember back in the 90s when there was a TV show called
>> hannity and combs..... It actually put a liberal and a conservative on the
>> same debate show. I never watched it I just knew it existed.....
>>
>> We need something like that again. People need to hear both sides.....
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Zach Underwood" <zunder1...@gmail.com>
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>> Date: Thu, May 19, 2022 10:07 AM
>>
>> Calling out people does work but only if you have established
>> relationships and it is a relationship that both wish to keep going. It can
>> help humanize the problem and help the other person see the harm.
>>
>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:54 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, maybe their thin skin needs some toughening up. Everyone could
>>> use some more grit.
>>>
>>> In my experience, those that feel compelled to “call out” people never
>>> affect positive change. And frequently they harm themselves in the
>>> trying. Becoming toxic themselves to those they are trying to
>>> shame/expose/coerce/educate/put down.
>>>
>>> What good does it do to tell some red necked construction worker that he
>>> is being racist? I just avoid those with views I abhor. And I try to
>>> teach by example. But I never call anyone out. At work, if they are my
>>> employee, I address the concern in private. If they don’t change I fire
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Social justice warriors are idiots in my opinion. They invent a noble
>>> cause with which to enshroud themselves while acting out in socially
>>> impolitic ways, a good reason, in their mind, to be an anarchist. Look at
>>> antifa and proud boys.
>>>
>>> Exact same people, doing the exact same things, for the exact same
>>> reasons. The ONLY difference is some contrived battle line they are trying
>>> to advance.
>>>
>>> *From:* Cameron Crum
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2022 7:42 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>
>>> You stirred the liberal hornets nest now, Chuck.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Weirdly opposite here. My brothers are vocally alt-right. All
>>>> ex-military, all purport to be Christian. One is dead from substance abuse
>>>> and suffered a variety of mental health issues. The surviving two are
>>>> always broke, angry, and unhappy. I feel like I have to tiptoe around them
>>>> so they don’t fly off the handle about anything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> …..and I’m not at all “woke”. I just know it’s not for me to pass
>>>> judgement.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand, this is NY. Maybe they feel like they’re the rebels
>>>> fighting the evil liberal death star. Maybe your kids in Utah feel like
>>>> they’re the rebels fighting the evil Republican death star.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 18, 2022 6:11 PM
>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT mildly political
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Woke, broke, in therapy and crazy unhappy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That is how I would describe some of my kids.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The alt right unwoke ones seem to have money and happiness.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Never expected I would not be able to speak my mind at family dinners
>>>> just to be able to still see some of my kids.
>>>>
>>>> Feel like I was convicted in absentia, thrown in the hole for a
>>>> lifetime sentence, but taken out of solitary confinement now and then at
>>>> their whims just so they could claim to have compassion on me for a half
>>>> hour walk in the woods. Maybe longer if I pay for dinner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Odd times....
>>>>
>>>> I loved my parents and grandparents.
>>>>
>>>> Never felt they had to earn it.
>>>>
>>>> Never would have thought of condemning them for the things they said.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Funny, I have a sister that lives 1000 miles from me. Our families
>>>> were separate all while the kids were growing.
>>>>
>>>> But some of hers have done the same things to her. Using the exact
>>>> same vernacular.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Must have something to do with energy drinks I think.
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