I would imagine that works on long pulls much better, faster and cheaper than soap

On 11/8/21 12:45, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
Right, they are always full of water.
I made a proofing dart with a cup seal at the end.
20 GPM 200 PSI moves it along at about 5 feet per second.  The pump was remarkably cheap to build. The cable or mule tape is buoyant so that reduces friction and the water does too.  I have read about this for years but never tried it.
*From:* TJ Trout
*Sent:* Monday, November 8, 2021 1:37 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] corrugated conduit
Underground condit gets filled with water from condensation anyway, so I'm sure he doesn't clean it out. I'm assuming he's using a dart and pushing it with water to pull cable in?
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 12:34 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I don't understand how that works (with water). Seems like it
    would be a
    pain to get it out? or do you just leave it in there?


    bp
    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

    On 11/8/2021 11:59 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
    > Cheap is a selling point for me.  We have started to put stuff down
    > conduit with water rather than air.  So far it is much better
    than air.
    >
    > -----Original Message----- From: Chris Fabien
    > Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 10:33 AM
    > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] corrugated conduit
    >
    > I would just use normal duct of whatever size is appropriate . That
    > just doesn't look as sturdy as solid wall of plastic. Looks like
    being
    > more flexible is the key selling point.
    >
    > On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 7:02 PM Chuck McCown via AF
    <af@af.afmug.com>
    > wrote:
    >>
    >> No, not smurf tube.  It is corrugated micro duct.
    >>
    >> Sent from my iPhone
    >>
    >> On Nov 4, 2021, at 4:02 PM, Josh Luthman
    >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
    >>
    >> 
    >> The cheap stuff from Home Depot?  That sounds like a nightmare.
    >>
    >> Josh Luthman
    >> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
    >> Direct: 937-552-2343
    >> 1100 Wayne St
    >> Suite 1337
    >> Troy, OH 45373
    >>
    >>
    >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 4:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF
    <af@af.afmug.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> There is HDPE versions that are designed for direct burial.
    >>>
    >>> From: Bill Prince
    >>> Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 2:04 PM
    >>> To: af@af.afmug.com
    >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] corrugated conduit
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> That orange stuff? I would not think it is outdoor rated, nor
    would
    >>> it hold up if buried.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> bp
    >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
    >>>
    >>> On 11/4/2021 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Conduit.  Like 1/2” corrugated microduct.
    >>>
    >>> From: Bill Prince
    >>> Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 1:41 PM
    >>> To: af@af.afmug.com
    >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] corrugated conduit
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> You talking about conduit or culvert?
    >>>
    >>> We replaced all of our old corrugated (galvanized)  culvert(s)
    with
    >>> the plastic stuff that's corrugated on the outside and smooth
    wall
    >>> on the inside. Way better stuff because it doesn't trap stuff.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> bp
    >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
    >>>
    >>> On 11/4/2021 12:30 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Anyone have any opinions about using cheap corrugated conduit for
    >>> areas where the ditch is already open?
    >>> I have never used it.  I worry it is not terribly strong and you
    >>> probably can’t blow it.
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