Local interference, bad puck, bad AP.  Only three things I can think of.  

From: Bill Prince 
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:30 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPS Timing changes in March

Satellites travel in the neighborhood of 5 miles per second. Any reflection 
that would hit one single spot would last for a small fraction of a second.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 5/25/2021 9:27 AM, Steve Jones wrote:

  is it possible that when starlink was trucking across the sky it could have 
impacted something, it was around that time we watched a few dozen of them 
beelining across the shy. I was told they were going to their positions or 
something like that. something like a reflection off one of them happening to 
hit right where you are? 


  On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 4:06 PM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

    The radio in question is an EPMP1000  pre GLONASS, Have not done any 
on-site troubleshooting yet.  i had the holdoff timer set to 1 week, so it 
didn't cause me a problem until i rebooted it during the time that it didn't 
have any satellites available.  I saw the GPS satellites increase on all AP's 
on the network EPMP1k,2k,3k, they all picked up 2-3 Sats in March.  


    On 5/24/2021 3:24 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

      My first guess would be a new site causing noise for your GPS.  Are these 
3KL?  Did you add a puck/remove the puck?  Assuming on boarding timing.


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      On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 2:39 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

        did you push any firmware updates around that time, pretty much every 
firmware I assume has some tweak to GPS to get it working correctly. Are these 
using the internal CPS receiver, or the external puck, the pucks will always do 
weird stuff, they go straight in the trash around here. To reboot a puck 
requires a full power cycle, not just a software reboot. I assume theres a 
capacitor involved somewhere that otherwise doesnt discharge and keeps a 
component of the external puck powered

        On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 11:09 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

          I am fighting some GPS issues on an EPMP radio, and I was looking 
back at my GPS Visible/tracked graphs.  Something happened around the 3rd week 
of March, the number of Visible/tracked satellites increased by 2-3 on almost 
every EPMP radio in my network.  Except for the Radio giving me trouble, on 
that EPMP radio, starting in the 3rd week of March it loses GPS signal entirely 
for multiple hours per day.  The other 2 EPMP radios on the same site show the 
2-3 satellite increase.  I think this is an Old EPMP1000 radio that only has 
GPS, not GLONASS.  It looks like 2 new GPS Sats were launched last year, but 
they were both online before the end of 2020.  We're in the Chicago Market, did 
Anyone else see GPS changes in March?  

          These 2 radios are on the same site.  Visible/tracked.

          Working AP


          AP with GPS Trouble



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