I personally would have a hard time accepting a refurbished radio (and 2 6 hour 
outages vs 1 possibly 3 hour outage if they just replace the one radio) for a 
contractor’s mistake on a brand new set of equipment.

“boss has a bigger heart than me”  Does this mean that you’re the grinch at the 
beginning of the story and boss is grinch at the end?

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2021 12:40 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] contractor damage to equipment

We did get closeout pics, but I think they repeaked. We have to do both ends 
because all we have on hand is non coupler radios. We dont even know if one 
polarity will come up. On the other end. Either way we can only operate one 
processor because the non coupler doesnt match license. Technichally we cant 
even don't cause it doesnt match our license hardware id.

I did put requirements on whatever they do to have start to finish video given 
all the issues weve had with them. I fired them, but boss has bigger heart than 
me, so they are closing out existing jobs before I stop calling them.



On Mon, May 10, 2021, 12:27 PM jerry bickle 
<je...@rfdesignservices.com<mailto:je...@rfdesignservices.com>> wrote:
I usually try to get pictures of the installation for the close out package.  I 
don’t know why you need to do both ends of the link.  If the radio comes back 
with a clean bill of health, then I don’t see why you need to climb the tower 
again to put it back.  He should climb and replace it at his cost.  Take lots 
of pictures and better yet, video of everything.

Jerry Bickle
President
RF Design Services, LLC
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Fax: 405.330.1310
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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on behalf of 
Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
<af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Date: Monday, May 10, 2021 at 12:07 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: [AFMUG] contractor damage to equipment

So we had a contractor replace some aviat radios for us. On one of the radios 
they left the alignment cap off, we didnt discover this til a month (and a few 
heavy rain storms) later. Theres no way its not got water in it, and worse it 
was really humid/misting the day we closed it. Its guaranteed theres at least a 
water droplet worth of condensation in there.

We are demanding it be rectified before a failure occurs, probably mid january, 
in the middle of a three day blizzard.

As far as Im concerned, its the contractors responsibility to eat the cost of a 
new radio.

He wants us to provide one of our spares so he can swap it, send the radio in 
for refurbishment, then swap it back. The issue is these are couple 4200s so 
the swap requires both sides of the link to have the adapters and radios 
swapped out, then swapped again on both when the refurbishment is complete. and 
we then have a radio we cant get a warranty on.

The last time this contractor swapped these adapters it took 3 hours per radio. 
So we are talking 2 six hour outages on a primary backhaul (this brings our 
second provider to 2/3 of the network). sure I can play with BGP to minimize 
impact, but its still a minimum 6 hours of degraded service.

I personally dont think we should give this contractor the option to take a 
brand new radio (literally less than two months old) and replace it with the 
same radio thats now refurbished. These are particularly painful to obtain (sub 
band 3 coupler radios) but aviat happens to have a set on hand.

Am I being a dick about this? I think doing something as stupid as leaving a 
cap off on a contract job should have a memorable cost
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