Since none of the PMP vendors have a space diversity option, I wonder about 
just putting up two radios and bonding them at the ethernet level.  If it is 
multipath fading, both radios should not be faded at the same time.  Would OSPF 
or RSTP or EIGRP be able to deal with this scenario?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 2:44 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector

this is one that was part of a group of similar issues. We had one that is 
white paper level multipath. I can tell you the day and time they start the 
harvest across the street and the time they finish it. that one we ended up 
just installing 2 radios and they swap power supplies twice a year. 

this one is facing west and looking at it the dips begin sharply around 4pm the 
last week, around noon the week before. thats about the time it starts to cool 
back down, not that its all that warm. its muddy fields so the surface is 
soggier in the day, firms up more when it cools. yesterday was super windy and 
it didnt do it, probably the soil is dryer.

IIRC i have her radio right now peaking over the ridge of the roof from her 
tower.

Im planning on going out and putting it on a 12 foot post to halve the fresnel, 
sable marginal is better than unstable marginal.

the first guy i mentioned here is actually a pretty cool case. this general 
region is super high iron content in the soil, we have another area this is 
really common and their soil samples are really high as well, i dont know if 
iron oxide is more reflective han dirt dirt or if certain circumstances make it 
that way. or could be whatever causes the soil to be more iron rich causes it. 
or soil content could have nothing to do with it. I had gotten the sample 
results from a soil testing joint thats a customer, thought i could figure it 
out but its one of those things somebody smarter than me could probably figure 
out.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 3:23 PM Brian Webster <[email protected]> wrote:

  Doe this customer have the issue at a certain time of the day? Maybe around 
sunrise or sunset. It may be possible that it’s not multipath but at certain 
times of the year the antenna has a good path to picking up noise from the sun 
and that could be stronger than your AP signal? This usually is exhibited on 
paths that have an East/West orientation. Depending on the gain of the antenna 
it can be worse than others. Think of the sun either just above the horizon at 
sunrise or sunset and the focal beam on the antenna is such that it picks up 
that noise enough to be stronger than the AP. Depending on the time of year, 
tilt angle of the Earth etc., it looks like a seasonal issue.



  Thank you,

  Brian Webster

  www.wirelessmapping.com



  From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
  Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 1:36 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  Subject: [AFMUG] multipath on a reflector



  our APs sit between 90 and 110 feet on average in flat terrain so we deal 
with alot of seasonal ground reflectivity issues. We have this one customer 
presenting again with whats probably multipath fading, I had tried putting a 
shield on the bottom half of the reflector once out of curiosity. It didnt do 
much

  what im wondering though is how the ground reflected multipath feeds into the 
feedhorn.

  is it reflecting off the top half of the dish and into the feedhorn like a 
mirror?

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