Swings are fine. But I’ve seen bitcoin swing thousands of dollars. That’s not 
ok. 

> On Jan 9, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Its changed for sure, nobody talks about mining anymore, it's just alot of 
> gambling, or investment if you're doing the stock.
> Even the coin return machines at stores are offering payment in bitcoin. But 
> like everything, it's a secondary market, you're getting paid in credits for 
> what is effectively their bitcoin, so the control the rate of return.
> A lot of people who think they're invested in bit coin are actually invested 
> in the secondary markets. 
> It seems it's still good to be in, as I understand it, unrest makes it grow 
> so you could effectively invest, let it grow til you can pull your initial 
> investment out and take all the risk you want til it collapses.
> I was reading a thing I didnt understand, but they said, based on info I dont 
> comprehend, that it will go to 65k, then plummet
> 
>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021, 5:00 PM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> 
>> wrote:
>> As of Monday we will be accepting Dogecoin....
>> 
>> > On Jan 9, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Daniel Pautz <d...@webnx.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > :)  Wow  that topic could get as bad as the political thread a few days 
>> > ago.   
>> > 
>> > For a business overall?  To gain new clients / clients that love BTC / 
>> > hate the current money system / etc.   But for this business its not a big 
>> > deal.
>> > 
>> > For Consumers?  There are tons of reason,  some people LOVE the gamble,  
>> > but the old school people that have been doing this a long time would say 
>> > "because the current monetary system sucks and is controlled by the man"   
>> >    "because look at the state of things, there is going to be soooo much 
>> > inflation so why keep money in the dollar when its going to be worth crap" 
>> >   but many people that were trying to push this as a win win to users and 
>> > business's is the tiny fees.  Imagine the cost of 10k in credit card 
>> > processing fees?   Send someone a million dollars almost instantly, etc.   
>> > Then you could get into the block chain side of it,  secure contracts and 
>> > other stuff.  
>> > 
>> > But then again you could also start the conversation of the feds sooner or 
>> > later regulating the crap out of it as its no longer a joke,  when 
>> > billions are being dumped into something the feds are going to take 
>> > notice.  
>> > 
>> > 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
>> > Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 3:34 PM
>> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I don’t understand bitcoin
>> > 
>> > So then what’s the point?
>> > 
>> >> On Jan 9, 2021, at 5:27 PM, Daniel Pautz <d...@webnx.com> wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> As a vendor / merchant you would just need to setup one of the systems 
>> >> that instantly cashes it out.  Don't treat it like a gamble (unless you 
>> >> are into that / want to do that).  
>> >> 
>> >> Dan
>> >> 
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
>> >> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2021 3:15 PM
>> >> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> >> Subject: [AFMUG] I don’t understand bitcoin
>> >> 
>> >> I had an ex employee who was all about bitcoin. I’ve read about it but 
>> >> still don’t understand. 
>> >> 
>> >> I’ve got money in BTC and LTC because I’ll do anything that makes me 
>> >> money - but I don’t understand how bitcoin works. 
>> >> 
>> >> Why would I accept a payment from you or $200USD worth of bitcoins when 
>> >> tomorrow that payment might be worth $100 if the value drops?
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