UBNT UBNT UBNT UBNT On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 5:12 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <[email protected]> wrote:
> I hated sociology when I was in college, but had to take it. I think > sociology now would be fascinating. Think about how far we have degraded > as a society. Of all people, the people on this list should not be > surprised of where we are at. > > There has always been conspiracy theories. Bigfoot, Area 51, JFK, etc. > But in the pre-internet days, you really had to want to be a conspiracy > person to get sucked in. You had to subscribe to magazines, you had to > find books at the store or library. You really had to be dedicated to that > conspiracy. Most considered them urban legends, only a few took the deep > dive. It also helped that 99% of the news was centralized. You watched a > certain channel because you liked the person doing the reporting , not the > news itself. If there was spin, it was mostly all spun in the same > direction. > > Then came the Internet. Now we have BBS and chat rooms where these > conspiracy people can virtually meet. Still not an issue because a > majority of the population is still getting their news from a centralized > place. CNN at this point was still main stream and in inline with the > networks. > > Then AOL comes along and everyone starts getting on the Internet. Things > start getting a little worst. Remember Bonsai Kitten. Hey, its on the > Internet so it is true. Forums start popping up, some people start > building their own websites, e-mail is becoming more popular. It's dial > up, still takes a lot of work to get involved with the conspiracy guys. > But now you have a bit easier access to the rabbit hole. Most news is > still consumed via TV and Newspapers. Most events are still reported > accurately. > > Then dedicated always on Internet shows up along with social media. This > begins the downward spiral. No more dial up. You can create any type of > bat shit crazy FB group/page. You can post any type of video on youtube. > Now that rabbit hole is getting easier to navigate. You can start blogging > or vlogging. You can setup websites via godaddy in a few clicks. More > people are starting to get their news via the Internet. The news > organizations start seeing this and begin their presence online. News is > starting to get a bit more blurry as some of these virtual news > organizations start competing with the old timers. > > Then we get smart phones, snapchat, instagram, etc. Now we have access to > that rabbit hole wherever we are. There is almost zero effort needed to > make a post to social media. Anyone with a selfie stick and a smart phone > is now a reporter. Virtual "news" channels streamed from someones basement > are now on ROKU or FireStick. There is no more centralize news. > Everything is an opinion story. Old school news outlets have to stop being > independent and start leaning one way or another to survive in the new > age. All that matters now is followers, eyeballs and ad revenue. Keep > your eyeballs worked up as much as possible, so they come back or go deeper > into the rabbit hole. > > As I said of all people, we on this list should not be surprised where we > are as a country. We watched this develop over the last 20+ years. > Unfortunately, I really don't see how it gets better. There was always > some fringe groups out there, but now there is no such thing as fringe. > > Everyone has now been divided into tribes. Red tribe, Blue tribe, LGQBT > tribe, BLM tribe, Proud Boys tribe, Christian tribe, etc. With social > media we are now free to associated with only the people that agree with > us. We surround ourselves with yes men. We rarely hear "The Rest of the > Story". Our believes are confirmed and reinforced each and every day until > we are willing to die for them. Chris Rock in the movie Dogma had a great > quote "I just think it's better to have an idea. You can change an idea; > changing a belief is trickier. People die for it, people kill for it." > > > -- > Best regards, > Mark mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> > > Myakka Technologies, Inc. > www.Myakka.com > > ------ > > Thursday, January 7, 2021, 2:37:53 PM, you wrote: > > > It seems like it should be pretty obvious to everyone at this point that > no matter what is said on either side of these political issues that > nothing is going to change the opinions and beliefs of people on the other > side. No matter how much “proof” either side has to show that they are > right, no one is going to change their opinion. I suppose there are always > some people who straddle the fence (just watch out if you slip and it’s a > picket or razor blade fence you’re straddling!) and might be swayed by > something they see, but the reality is that nothing is gained by anyone by > these conversations on a list like this. In fact, much is lost…….. > hopefully those that unsubscribed will come back. Personally, as long as > political discussions don’t get so vicious as they’ve been at times, I find > many of them entertaining. Overall though they seem to have caused more > damage to this group than any benefit they’ve ever given. > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF > *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 1:24 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Chuck McCown <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB > > I could argue number of people involved, number of days in protest, number > or people hurt, number of cops hurt, $ of damage done etc etc and compare > the two by the numbers. > > Pretty sure I am right. Just crunch the numbers. There is no “side” to > simple counting of participants times time. > > But to you my comment “one sided inflammatory BS” . > > Sorry I offered ANY opinion or commentary. > My comment came very late in the day, the political argument started far > earlier. > > > > *From:* Carl Peterson > *Sent:* Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:14 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB > > Chuck, > > I know it is your list and your rules, but you can't say crap like "The DC > crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland and Seattle > crap largely done by the other side. Give and take." and not expect it to > start a political argument. I think you are abundantly and dangerously > wrong about that but I'm (mostly) holding my tongue. We can't have a list > where one sided inflammatory BS like that is allowed but countering it is > not. We either allow political discussions, which I'm fine with, or we > make a no politics rule. The latter seems to be the best option as there > are too many brilliant minds who we will lose if we keep it up. > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Sorry. I don’t want to go back to the days of lent, but we have to remain > civil to do so. > > The DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland and > Seattle crap largely done by the other side. Give and take. > > Folks wanna blow off steam. It will be history tomorrow. > > No need to pollute our list here with that energy, from either side. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:32 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB > > youre no fun dad > > Lent? > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:31 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Kill thread. We had been well behaved but nobody wants to see a bunch of > F words in a subject line. There have been complaints. > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:23 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit > > That's the real problem. I've come to the conclusion that almost no > so-called news having anything to do with politics is honest or reliable, > no matter which side it comes from. Almost all of it is slanted (if not > outright dishonest) to either fit their own view or manipulate their > consumers into supporting a particular agenda. Unfortunately, there seems > to be very little that can be done to fix it. > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:17 PM Craig House <[email protected]> > wrote: > > " a nugget of truth with a layer of bullshit on top" Is exactly how I > take every bit of news from every outlet on every station. It is even > more the case when the source is a politician or anyone with a political > agenda. This includes most of the people on this list. Very few on > either side can really provide an objective argument on politics today. > I'd include myself in that group therefore I tend to just delete or not > reply to these group messages because it only furthers the divide. I > honestly dont see any long term solution to the divide we have today. > Mainstream media isn't going to help. Congress isn't going to help and > Trump isn't going to help. Neither is anyone's opinion on this list > > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> > *Sent: *Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:09:22 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit > > Look at the evidence closely and in each case you'll find a nugget of > truth with a layer of bullshit on top. That so many people are so > thoroughly fooled by it is the most distressing part. Look closer. Stop > being a fool. > The "coup" is when the loser thinks he can win by pretending hard enough. > > On 1/6/2021 5:05 PM, justsumname wrote: > > an election that is not conducted according to law is not an election. > it's a coup. > Worse... if the 'election' is not transparent, verifiable, and treats > every voter the same, it's not an "election". > Worse ... if poll watchers are bullied and physically threatened... that > is intolerable. > > hereistheevidence.com --- in case you dare open your mind to truth > > Patton was correct, and so was that McCarthy guy, who was probably a > commie plant because he did a great job discrediting 'his' message. > > All that is left is communism or war. That was the plan all along and > only 'crazy' people -- and people who escaped communist societies to come > warn us -- saw it or believed in it. > > I'll sign off with this, because this is probably The End: > > “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the > purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to > inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to > reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are > being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to > repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of > probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil > oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even > destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if > you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended > to.” ~ Theodore Dalrymple > > You arrogant asses, you've killed us! > -- > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > go drink some tecate, youre losing your mind > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Did you just hear his tweeter video bullshit? Fuck Trump... Kruchev > predicted it... Trump enabled it. > > Go ahead and get off this list > Fuck Trump and his Trumpicans... > This is an Insurrection..Rudy called for trial by combat, Trump said it > was going to be wild ... > So fuck them to hell. > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 2:11 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > IKR, slides biden is demanding potus go on national TV to quell it, unlike > during the biden obama administration when he didnt demand the same. god > this is funny. sad they havent shot more of these mopes today and > historically > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> > wrote: > > WTF...third world country tactics... > Insurrection... > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > Carl Peterson > > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > ------------------------------ > *Total Control Panel* > Login <https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net> > To: [email protected] > <https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993&domain=litewire.net> > From: [email protected] > > *You received this message because the domain afmug.com <http://afmug.com> > is on your allow list.* > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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