x86 is generally good and Brian does a good job of selling things that work. I haven't used it myself but I'd be comfortable with it.
Your downside is power consumption - way more wattage on x86 over arm/tile/etc. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 9:19 AM Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote: > Has anyone tried Maxwave from Baltic networks? > > > https://www.balticnetworks.com/manufacturers/maxxwave/maxxwave-routermaxx-vengeance-8-port-gigabit-core-i7-i7-8700k-hexa-core-router > > They have bunch of cards options which can be added > > > Tushar > > > On Dec 30, 2020, at 12:28 PM, Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> wrote: > > > Welp replacing it with a brand new 1072 with new transceivers etc lasted > about a week before it rebooted itself. > > Mikrotik basically said RMA it or it may be faulty hardware. Well I > ruled that out with a unit that came from the factory with a pretty recent > firmware. > > Mikrotik if you read this. Get off your ass and lab this up. If you are > happy dealing with residential equipment for the rest of your lives keep > doing what you are doing. If you want to move up into the enterprise level > you better get on top of this. > > [image: logo] <https://www.wavedirect.net/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed> > <https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/> > <https://twitter.com/wavedirect1> > <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect> > * STEVEN KENNEY * > DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | > Leamington ON > E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283 > W: www.wavedirect.net > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> > *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Tuesday, December 22, 2020 10:20:36 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations > > Fair enough. But, I have quad port x710's in many ESXi hosts (running CHR > and otherwise) - and they are completely fine. > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2020 at 8:58 AM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> > wrote: > >> I've been warned away from using the quad cards and speaking from >> experience I myself have used quad ethernet cards with x86 mikrotiks in the >> past with little success. All sorts of funky issues. >> >> I understand clearly we can use vlans and such in ESXI but I'm talking >> the pure amount of traffic I'll need will be beyond the demands the bus on >> the motherboard will be able to handle. I guess I really need to look at >> the specs. I know PCI Express V6 can do over 100Gbps. But I'll prob use a >> couple off lease Dells in its own routing cluster. >> >> [image: logo] <https://www.wavedirect.net/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed> >> <https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/> >> <https://twitter.com/wavedirect1> >> <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect> >> * STEVEN KENNEY * >> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | >> Leamington ON >> E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283 >> W: www.wavedirect.net >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> >> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Sent: *Monday, December 21, 2020 4:03:21 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >> >> The x710 has 4 SFP+ ports. You don't necessarily need dedicated physical >> interfaces for each router either. Our CHR boxes have a single x710 and >> several instances of CHR "sharing" the physical interfaces. We use ESXi >> with a virtual switch trunking VLANs to the CHR instances. >> >> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 3:43 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Right those are 2x though for a total of 4 ports. I need more than >>> that, especially if I want to run more than one router on these. >>> >>> Might even consider to see if there is any support for 40Gbps cards or >>> whether a server's bus can handle those speeds with a card. I can >>> aggregate different devices on a switch instead. >>> >>> [image: logo] <https://www.wavedirect.net/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed> >>> <https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/> >>> <https://twitter.com/wavedirect1> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect> >>> * STEVEN KENNEY * >>> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | >>> Leamington ON >>> E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283 >>> W: www.wavedirect.net >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Josh Baird" <joshba...@gmail.com> >>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Sent: *Monday, December 21, 2020 3:34:23 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >>> >>> 2x Intel x710. >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 2:22 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've considered this too as a temporary measure because I can get some >>>> off lease well maintained Dell servers for peanuts. Problem is finding the >>>> right cards when you need 8 sfp+ ports. >>>> >>>> [image: logo] <https://www.wavedirect.net/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed> >>>> <https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/> >>>> <https://twitter.com/wavedirect1> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect> >>>> * STEVEN KENNEY * >>>> DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY A: 158 Erie St. N | >>>> Leamington ON >>>> E: st...@wavedirect.org | P: 519-737-9283 >>>> W: www.wavedirect.net >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> >>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 21, 2020 12:41:53 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >>>> >>>> We just bought 5x brand new 1072s and they are rebooting by watchdog. >>>> Upgraded ros and firmware, Disabled watchdog and then they hard freeze and >>>> require a reboot. >>>> >>>> We are going chr route. 1072 is junk. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020, 9:34 AM Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hate to say it, but worked. Keep in mind that these units that we >>>>> have had this issue had been running for 3+ years, so, it was out of >>>>> warranty anyways. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, >>>>> MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified * >>>>> >>>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” >>>>> >>>>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>>>> >>>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>>>> >>>>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Josh Baird >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 21, 2020 9:45 AM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Haha - "Get a new one" .. only with MT. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 8:22 AM Dennis Burgess < >>>>> dmburg...@linktechs.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Get a new one. That’s what we did, replaced it and the issue went >>>>> away. Its like the 1072 has some kind of bug, or maybe a leaky cap, that >>>>> eventually causes them to do this. No matter of fiddling fixes it, we >>>>> swapped out the unit and have not have the same issue since. We have >>>>> 1072s >>>>> running 15gig inbound without issues. So, while I do attest that this is >>>>> a MT (rather routeros) issue, we don’t have any data to know where it is >>>>> unless the manufacture can tell us. So far they are tight lipped. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *[image: LTI-Full_175px]* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, >>>>> MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified * >>>>> >>>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” >>>>> >>>>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services >>>>> >>>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net >>>>> >>>>> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney >>>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 21, 2020 12:56 AM >>>>> *To:* af <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Their support is behaving the same way exactly. They told me to take >>>>> the watchdog off and allow the internet to be frozen (downtime for all my >>>>> customers) whenever it happens at any random point in the day/night while >>>>> I >>>>> rush to log into it with a serial cable. The absurdity of it. Luckily I >>>>> told him from day one that I have a CONSOLE SERVER and that I log all the >>>>> serial output of all my switches and routers. But even though I told them >>>>> that a couple times they still requested I plug in a serial cable and wait >>>>> for it to freeze. So I'm like .. hellooo there is a serial cable plugged >>>>> in at all times! I told him there is no output. It just reboots. I even >>>>> humored him and turned the watchdog off and we had a reboot on the weekend >>>>> while the cable was plugged in and the console was logged in. I even had >>>>> logging set to echo for a lot of things and nothing.. just a hard freeze. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is no BGP on this one and the processor is not high leading up >>>>> to the crash at all. Updated 5 times already and its just a placebo. >>>>> They need to get their shit together. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: logo] >>>>> <https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=https%3a%2f%2fwww.wavedirect.net&umid=D7E8655E-B6F3-F705-88EA-2A08303811DF&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-ed4acb70d3fb71b72aeea4066f6012bfa1e2e66e> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ruralhighspeed> >>>>> <https://www.instagram.com/wave.direct/> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wavedirect-telecommunication/> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/wavedirect1> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/user/WaveDirect> >>>>> >>>>> *STEVEN KENNEY * >>>>> *DIRECTOR OF GLOBAL CONNECTIVITY & CONTINUITY * >>>>> >>>>> *A: 158 Erie St. N | Leamington ON E: st...@wavedirect.org >>>>> <st...@wavedirect.org> | P: 519-737-9283 W: >>>>> https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=www.wavedirect.net&umid=D7E8655E-B6F3-F705-88EA-2A08303811DF&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-a20d49e3e6a4f958e127c88b05686fb87748d1dd >>>>> <https://imsva91-ctp.trendmicro.com:443/wis/clicktime/v1/query?url=www.wavedirect.net&umid=D7E8655E-B6F3-F705-88EA-2A08303811DF&auth=079c058f437b7c6303d36c6513e5e8848d0c5ac4-a20d49e3e6a4f958e127c88b05686fb87748d1dd>* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> *From: *"Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com> >>>>> *To: *"af" <af@af.afmug.com> >>>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 21, 2020 12:59:09 AM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This last year, I've seen a MikroTik CCR1072 switch from long being >>>>> rock-solid to now having occasional random reboots (from watchdog) or 100% >>>>> CPU usage, which strangles the BGP process. In the latter case, >>>>> tools->profile would show the firewall taking 100% of CPU, even after >>>>> temporarily disabling all firewall filter and NAT rules and connection >>>>> tracking. Not fun. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> MT tech support did not seem super helpful or interested, mostly >>>>> recommending to disable watchdog (unacceptable on a production router) or >>>>> to upgrade firmware (without specifying the suspected cause of the problem >>>>> or nature of the fix). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tried 1 update, that didn't seem to help, have now tried another... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 11:38 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> MIkrotik has been rock solid for me for years. Until this year and >>>>> the 1072's. Random reboots set off by watchdog timer on all of my 1072's. >>>>> Some more than others. Threads in the forum all discuss the same problem >>>>> exactly. Its a connection tracking issue.. however I need connection >>>>> tracking on one particular router. I've adjusted everything I could. >>>>> Firmware and board firmware all up to date etc. Happens randomly with low >>>>> levels of traffic, high levels of traffic, sometimes a couple times a >>>>> day, sometimes weeks. No DDOS evidence at all from upstream routers. >>>>> Configs checked and rechecked by third party experts. I graph everything >>>>> about the Mikrotik and there are no clues or anything abnormal happening >>>>> before the crash. Plenty of memory, disk space, CPU etc. Replaces all >>>>> the trannies, power cables and such. Not running BGP only OSPF on the one >>>>> that is giving me the most trouble. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Even have a serial console cable plugged into them to my opengear and >>>>> set it to log pretty much everything to console including the kernel and >>>>> nothing. A hard freeze. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Then there is Mikrotik support... I've never needed their support >>>>> before until now. So I put a ticket in and the shitty attitude I'm >>>>> getting >>>>> from them seems like they KNOW there is something wrong with the hardware >>>>> and they are intentionally not being helpful. It is pretty clear to see >>>>> with all the people reporting this issue that there IS an issue. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If this is any indication of how things are going to go with Mikrotik >>>>> on the newer hardware going forware I think its time to jump to an >>>>> enterprise level system. Juniper most likely. Shame because they are >>>>> just >>>>> about keeping up with the demands with their hardware. Getting closer to >>>>> 100Gbps etc and ROS7 ... but at their current pace I think we've outgrew >>>>> them. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All the threads discussing this issue has been absolutely quiet when >>>>> it comes to Mikrotik jumping in to mention or try to help troubleshoot. I >>>>> think they know they had bad hardware out there and do not want to honor >>>>> warranties. 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