im talking about the award, not the check. You shouldnt even be able to get on the radar without a completed region to ask for an award for
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 3:00 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > That is how it usually is. I don't know what program is giving out cash up > front, but please sign me up for that. > > Proving you built it starts with invoices for all the crap you bought and > ends with physical audit. The terms are not the same in every program, but > typically you get reimbursed based on invoices you paid. The physical > audit comes later. I suppose if you wanted to take the money and skip town > you could produce a lot of fake invoices from all the vendors, but you'd > have to know that it's a temporary thing and have your permanent vacation > to Brazil already planned. > On 12/16/2020 2:22 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > I wish funding would change to a retroactive award, ie, you build it, you > prove it, you get reimbursed. Reimbursement award chart can be public per > region. Awards have rate cap requirements to avoid predatory monopolies. > You really only need to self fund your first build, subsequent awards fund > subsequent builds if you choose that model. Keeps things fair and gives > opportunity for small operators to step up their game rather than being > over built with government money and poor quality/customer service. > Funding should also be based on regional polling. We can send ballots to > every address and census workers, we should be able to verify there is > actual demand not being met before we dump cash into it > > On Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 1:09 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Banana pants for sure. Do bananas burn? Maybe if you soak dried banana >> peels in gasoline; then your banana pants could catch fire. >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 12/16/2020 11:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> It’s like all the arguing over how many locations can get gigabit >> Internet. That’s a first world problem. Rural areas would be like pigs in >> mud if they could get 100M or even 25M. I saw some expert quoted (and I >> think it was in a WISPA newsletter) that farms needed gigabit. No backup >> for that assertion, I am pretty sure he pulled it out of his ass. >> >> >> >> Some rural senator said we are arguing about 4G vs 5G and his farm had no >> G. >> >> >> >> It’s like the kids who can’t do their Zoom classes, and people want you >> to believe they need 25 or 100 or 1000 Mbps for that. No, they need a >> little over 1 Mbps for each kid. I’m not saying they should only get 3M or >> 5M service, but if you’re telling people that rural kids can’t do their >> video classes unless they get 100M or gigabit, that’s a load of crap. And >> the people who say that either have an agenda, or their pants are on fire. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> <[email protected]> *On >> Behalf Of *Jason McKemie >> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:01 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SpaceX RDOF boondoggle? >> >> >> >> I'm a big fan of letting the market take care of it. If there is a >> demand, then a WISP will likely meet it. If not, either deal with it or >> move somewhere that has service. Maybe that is another argument entirely, >> but I think we're searching for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 11:34 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Is it better to fund Frontier FTTH and risk them being evil, incompetent >> Frontier or better to leave rural WV unserved? It's easy to sit back in >> our comfy chairs and say Frontier doesn't deserve that money, but then what >> do we do after not giving it to them? >> >> On 12/16/2020 12:24 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: >> >> It should probably be a requirement that you aren't under bankruptcy >> protection if you're going to be getting public money. Plus Frontier is >> just generally incompetent, hence the bankruptcy. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:58 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I saw the senator's complaint. I can't speak to Frontier's competency, >> but Frontier threw their hat in the ring to voluntarily serve unprofitable >> areas with government assistance. I'm betting the senator's complaint is >> moot because nobody else wants that job. >> >> >> >> On 12/15/2020 12:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >> I forget who was complaining that SpaceX was getting RDOF money to serve >> areas like universities and airports, but FreePress is complaining about >> the same thing. >> >> >> >> Keep in mind this is FreePress, which likes criticizing Internet policy a >> lot. Also winners still have to submit their long forms. >> >> >> >> >> https://www.freepress.net/our-response/expert-analysis/insights-opinions/broadband-boondoggle-ajit-pais-886m-gift-elon-musk >> >> >> >> I also saw that a WV senator was objecting money to Frontier which she >> said was not competent to deliver gigabit service in her state. >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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