At my larger solar sites where a 5-10A battery charger just isn’t enough, I 
have had good success with the Tycon 65V 1200W AC-DC power supply 
(PSVHP-65-1200) fed into a different MPPT controller, hooked to the batteries 
in parallel with the other PV controller. Into my 24V string, I generally get 
around 38A charging while it’s running, resulting in good “fuel use efficiency”.

At smaller solar sites, I have used a Tycon 300W charger (kinda bulky) or a 
Deep Sea Electronics DIN rail charger.

Generally, if your battery string is wired for 24V, any high amperage constant 
current limiting 48V power supply into an MPPT solar controller makes a great 
charger for running on a generator. If you’re 48V, it seems to be harder to 
find an economical 60+V high amperage constant current limiting power supply, 
but the Tycon above seems to be decent.

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> On Nov 8, 2020, at 1:51 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
> 
>  This was supposed to go to the list.   So if anyone wants to chime in as to 
> their method of charging these batteries when on A/C I would be interested.   
> On solar with morningstar there is a whole bunch of info on setting the 
> morningstar up for what is believed to be the best, but for A/C I am still 
> reading conflicting info..
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject:      Re: [AFMUG] Solar calculator?
> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2020 17:23:59 +0000
> From: Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
> To:   i...@avantwireless.com <i...@avantwireless.com>
> 
> 
> Awesome, thanks for the info!
>  
> From: Robert <i...@avantwireless.com>
> Date: Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 11:49 AM
> To: Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar calculator?
> 
> These two batteries are a game changer for price, the first got a great 
> review from Will Prowse.  I am about to start testing the second.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/SOK-Battery-Rechargeable-Temperature-Disconnect/dp/B087BJYGV4/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=sok+lithium+battery+12v+200ah&qid=1604849875&sr=8-2
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Lithium-LiFePO4-Overland-Off-Grid-Application/dp/B088RM4W48/ref=pd_vtp_263_2/144-1995328-4702232?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B088RM4W48&pd_rd_r=37bceb2e-57cc-43cc-b204-a1e0803c8c1d&pd_rd_w=kmh23&pd_rd_wg=jqV8b&pf_rd_p=4f2ab3e8-468a-4a7c-9b91-89d6a9221c29&pf_rd_r=1NAA59G6N3MGTG5B11A9&psc=1&refRID=1NAA59G6N3MGTG5B11A9
> 
> On 11/8/20 5:18 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
> Yeah, we are inclined towards Lithium
>  
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
> Date: Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:03 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar calculator?
> 
> But you want to only take a lead battery to 1/2 that to avoid decreasing the 
> longevity of them, so double the battery size and, if the batteries are going 
> to be outside in the winter you will lose performace so double it again.
> 
> Lithium, I have learned that yes you can discharge them fully but you only 
> want to charge them to 80% to get maximum life.   So you only need to go 120% 
> of your battery calculation for lithium...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/7/20 1:40 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> 30 watts * 24 *14 = approx 10 kWh.  So you need a 10 kWh battery.  10 kWh/48 
> = 210 Ah 48 volt battery.
>  
> Now, I have lotsa experience at my latitude and weather.  I will take a stab 
> at your situation.  If you can easily get a generator to the site it makes a 
> huge difference. 
>  
> I would say you need a minimum of 300 watts of panel which is not much.  You 
> can get one single panel of that size.  Depending on the type of charge 
> controller you use, you will probably want 2 or 3 panels to get the voltage 
> up in the 60-100 volt range. 
>  
> So take a look at the MMPV of the panels you choose and add them up in 
> series.  Take a look at the max input voltage of your charge controller.  Try 
> to get the series voltage of the panels close to that max input voltage if 
> you can. 
>  
> I promise it will work if you do 600 watts of panel, that would be at my 
> latitude, middle of winter with snow and storms.  20X the load is my rule of 
> thumb here for off grid.  20X the load and 2 weeks of battery autonomy saves 
> you from expensive helicopter rides in the middle of winter.  So that is why 
> I am recommending 10X for you.  I think Bill once said he can get by with 10X 
> down where he lives. 
>  
> From: Gino A. Villarini
> Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 12:13 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: [AFMUG] Solar calculator?
>  
> Anyone with a good online calculator?
>  
> Or can you assits with:
>  
> What size of panel and batteries would I need for a 48v 30W setup to run 24/7 
> for at least 14 days without power?
> Gino Villarini 
> Founder/President
> @gvillarini
> t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
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