https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/nixon-tried-to-spoil-johnsons-vietnam-peace-talks-in-68-notes-show.html

On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 10:59 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Nixon ended the war.  My dad hired hippies at the start of summer every
> year in Oregon.  Many of them were refugees from society believing
> civilization was coming to an end.  They loved to debate politics with me
> as a young man.  When they got down on Nixon I would just say he ended the
> war.  It always ended the debate.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 8, 2020 9:52 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>
> Nixon was intelligent, articulate and knew his shit.  He did some positive
> things for the USA ...too bad he fucked it up.
> Trump is best summed up in one word..
> Inept
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 4:36 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Speaking of John Ford, you remind me of Gerald Ford who said "Our long
>> national nightmare is over." That was back in the days when you could shame
>> a corrupt president. I didn't particularly like Richard Nixon, but I still
>> have more respect for him than for 45.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 11/7/2020 3:21 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>> The Founding Fathers didn’t account for the rise of political parties,
>> which came soon enough.
>>
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College#Original_plan
>>
>>
>>
>> Somehow I’m reminded of the movie The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.  Set
>> in the fading days of the old west with territories becoming states and
>> deciding who to elect as their representatives.  Should it be Jimmy Stewart
>> the righteous lawyer, or Lee Marvin the outlaw gang leader?  The old
>> fashioned idea that you sent the brightest and best educated person to
>> Washington to represent you.  Hah!  Politicians are not held in great
>> esteem today, and we would probably vote for Liberty Valance.  I assume
>> everyone has seen the movie.  It’s an old John Ford western, in fact he
>> shot it in B&W, but it’s a must see.  Look at the cast – Jimmy Stewart,
>> John Wayne, Lee Marvin, Vera Miles, Andy Devine, Edmond O’Brien, John
>> Caradine, Lee Van Cleef.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 7, 2020 4:46 PM
>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
>>
>>
>>
>> The three-fifths compromise was enacted long before California existed.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-fifths_Compromise
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 11/7/2020 12:54 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>
>> Uhhhh. No. The EC was created so that California has the same voice power
>> as Rhode Island.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 7, 2020, at 3:17 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Could have been over on Tuesday if we didn't have the silly Electoral
>> College shenanigans; which actually evolved from the crazy slave is 3/5 of
>> a person nonsense. Here we are ~~ 250 years later and we're still dealing
>> with decisions we made about slaves.
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 11/7/2020 11:15 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>>
>> We have spoken.
>>
>>
>>
>> Righteous Indignation
>>
>>
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