Yikes.  Gotta remember to stay away from Australia next year!

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Remember, Mad Max happens in 2021...

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From: Larry Smith
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And to stir the pot a little:

Add to all this the government restriction on evictions,
which I understand is also ending soon, so those that
squandered their extra money are going to be hauling
that 90" tv around in the back of their civic.

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On Thu August 6 2020 10:33, Lewis Bergman wrote:
> A lot of this has to do with the employer as well right?
>
> Another anecdotal story so be patient but it is a real one. My wife has a
> little part time job at a jewelry store called James Avery. They sell
> cheap
> silver stuff I think. She likes it and it only costs me about $100 a month
> for her to work there. When retail was shut down they eventually laid
> everyone off. Supposedly they also file unemployment for her. No idea if
> she ever got it but they said they did. I don't think she ever got the
> $600
> a week or whatever but again, I have no idea. After a few weeks they
> opened
> and asked her to come back which she did. I would assume that if she had
> refused (so she could collect her extra $600 a week from the feds) that is
> a valid reason to suspend her unemployment and JA would have challenged
> that. I know I would have.
>
> A job offered that you used to perform and refused is a valid reason to
> suspend benefits. So once your benefit is suspended what do you do? Go
> back
> to work. If you worked for me, you would have to go get a job somewhere
> else because I am not hiring you back but you still have to go find a job
> somewhere or your lifestyle starts to rapidly change.
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:16 AM Carl Peterson 
> <cpeter...@portnetworks.com><mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com%3e>
>
> wrote:
> > I just skimmed it but I think the TLDR on it is that since UI varies by
> > state etc you can compare return to work rates for people making more
> > and
> > less then they used to and it seems they return to work at similar
> > rates.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 10:10 AM Carl Peterson
> > <cpeter...@portnetworks.com><mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com%3e>
> >
> > wrote:
> >> Pretty sure unemployment is taxed like ordinary income at the federal
> >> level. State by state varies. I think your numbers are assuming it
> >> isn't taxed?
> >>
> >> Yale did a study on this.
> >>
> >> CARES-UI_identification_vF(1).pdf
> >> (2,000K)
> >>
> >> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=65db33fe01&attid=0.1&permmsgid
> >>=msg-a:r4257579253290864261&view=att&disp=safe&realattid=f_kdixrue20>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:59 AM 
> >> <ch...@wbmfg.com><mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com%3e> wrote:
> >>> But at the risk of starting another brush fire... but I want to know:
> >>>
> >>> People laid of in Utah get unemployment benefits. I work hard to
> >>> prevent those getting charged to me. But I know that the rates paid
> >>> are $496/week max. That is Utah.
> >>> So $12.40/hour take home. Equivalent to much more gross. Probably in
> >>> the $17/hour range gross.
> >>>
> >>> Then if I understand it right, the feds were adding $600/week on top
> >>> of
> >>> that? $1096/week? $56,992 annual rate. Take home. Equivalent to
> >>> perhaps $80K gross?
> >>>
> >>> So a laid off bartender gets the equivalent of $40/hour to sit at
> >>> home,
> >>> why would they want to work? The press and libs in congress have been
> >>> freaking out about the conservatives saying the fat benefit package is
> >>> an incentive to not try to work. I believe that to be true. Why
> >>> would
> >>> anyone work if they get that much for drinking beer and playing video
> >>> games?
> >>>
> >>> Do I have this right? Does the fed benefit add to the state benefit?
> >>>
> >>> I have a son that lived on $1000/month for years while in college. He
> >>> said he didn’t feel the pinch too much. Had roommates. Had a part
> >>> time job. Never asked me for money.
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